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July 10th, 2019 at 3:18:31 PM permalink
Should also state if there were a paytable change on these machines, we would still count it as a new machine and would again require a tech changing the paytable at the machine with Regulatory standing there watching it all and then sealing the board. We really are not required to seal all the stuff we do at my store, but I think it is a good practice.
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July 10th, 2019 at 3:30:29 PM permalink
I have seen Coke machines that the cost of the product is directly related to the outside temperature. The hotter it is, the more expensive the product.

If there is a hypothetical VP machine where the paytable changes based on time, I have never seen or heard of it.

I am sure that in Nevada, there is no current law to allow the slot machine theoretical to be changed without a whole bunch of paperwork and hoops to jump through. There is no way that the slot product is in play.

I will do some checking though.
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July 10th, 2019 at 7:07:36 PM permalink
I could see the VP version of this being allowed, as the paytable is in full view (although I doubt it could be changed while someone is playing it). However, with some of the new VP variants where you have an unknown probability (like wheel poker) I would assume that changing the weighting of the wheel would be comparable to changing a slot payback, and not allowed.
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July 10th, 2019 at 7:46:03 PM permalink
I thought some of the casinos had central servers and they were allowed to change the paybacks as long as it was idle for x amount of time?
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July 10th, 2019 at 7:58:58 PM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

Even though it's legal in many jurisdictions, is it commonly used for slots in casinos? It's definitely not for video poker.



Is it commonly used for slots? I personally don't know of any casinos doing it.
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July 10th, 2019 at 8:14:16 PM permalink
Quote: waasnoday

Should also state if there were a paytable change on these machines, we would still count it as a new machine and would again require a tech changing the paytable at the machine with Regulatory standing there watching it all and then sealing the board. We really are not required to seal all the stuff we do at my store, but I think it is a good practice.



Most of the machines that are capable of this are server based. Changes are usually made from the SBX console.
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July 10th, 2019 at 8:15:04 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I thought some of the casinos had central servers and they were allowed to change the paybacks as long as it was idle for x amount of time?



They do.
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