Quote: GWAEI am not sure how slots payouts work. When going from 80% to 90% is it the rng that changes, the payouts for each symbol, or the number of stops per real that changes? Or can it be all of those?
Just wondering if they could program VP machines to change payables throughout the day? Like make a 9-6 job game be 9-6 m-f 5am until 3pm but then automatically go to 8-5 on the other times.
Directly from the patent
6. The method of claim 5 wherein the video game is selected from the group of video games consisting of video poker, video slots, video blackjack, video keno and video bingo.
and to be honest, the way you describe it seems to be a bit less nefarious, but im pretty sure thats the point of the patent
Quote: GWAEI am not sure how slots payouts work. When going from 80% to 90% is it the rng that changes, the payouts for each symbol, or the number of stops per real that changes? Or can it be all of those?
Just wondering if they could program VP machines to change payables throughout the day? Like make a 9-6 job game be 9-6 m-f 5am until 3pm but then automatically go to 8-5 on the other times.
Slot machines will have a separate model for each pay percentage available. Assume a typical slot machines has 5 different pays chedules built into the chip set. 85% 87% 89% 91% 93%. In most cases each different available pay percentage will have differently weighted reel strips. For example, the 93% game may have 10 bonus symbols where the 87% game may only have 6 bonus symbols.
Yes, a VP game could be configured to change paytables at certain times. These types of changes are legal in many jurisdictions.
Quote: DRich
Yes, a VP game could be configured to change paytables at certain times. These types of changes are legal in many jurisdictions.
Even though it's legal in many jurisdictions, is it commonly used for slots in casinos? It's definitely not for video poker.
Quote: heatmapFind me a jurisdiction that explicitly states that what I’m talking about is ILLEGAL
That is a ridiculous statement. Games, electronics, gaming supplies, pay tables, computer chips and the sort have to be approved for use. Everything is unapproved until approved.
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Quote: waasnodayHave not see a par sheet that allows for changing a hold percentage based on the time of day. They may be out there but at my store we run class III machines and if a hold percentage is changed then we have to treat this as a new machine. Co-mingling of hold percentages is not really allowed. Here is the wording the regulation we have to follow "Each change to a gaming machine's theoretical hold percentage, including progressive percentage contributions, shall result in that machine being treated as a new machine in the statistical reports (i.e., not commingling various hold percentages), except for adjustments made in accordance with paragraph (h)(2) of this section." So what that means is we have to send a tech out to change the hold percentage with a representative of Regulatory who witnesses the change and then seals the board. The tech this fills out a couple pages of tracking documents. So even though there is a patent out there, I doubt you would see it in any class III gaming stores. 25crf542.13 (h) (15) would be hard to work around for that type of machine.
this is the kind of response i was looking for
i should let everyone know that what he is speaking about is INDIAN casino regulations now that i was able to find the law reference he was speaking about
Quote: heatmapthis is the kind of response i was looking for
i should let everyone know that what he is speaking about is INDIAN casino regulations now that i was able to find the law reference he was speaking about
Didn’t you say a month ago that you’d figured out a way to play blackjack and a bj side bet , whereby you come out ahead on every hand ?
Why are you even bothering playing these other games
(iii) On an annual basis, adjust the theoretical hold percentage in the gaming machine statistical report to a weighted average based upon the ratio of coin-in for each game paytable.
how do you explain that?
Quote: michael99000Didn’t you say a month ago that you’d figured out a way to play blackjack and a bj side bet , whereby you come out ahead on every hand ?
Why are you even bothering playing these other games
not quite and the only reason i am even looking at anything slot related is because its just so hard to miss when reasearching anything casino. hell i found that trove of slot PAR sheets by accident. as much as i dont play slot machines the fact that the wizard has started to talk more about slot AP the more i notice when searching for other stuff