Slot Bonus question

I understand the basic workings of a slot machine. If you hit the spin button fraction of a second early or late, it will give you a different outcome. You may have missed a jackpot by a tenth of a second...

When a slot machine rewards you with a bonus like the Buffalo machine, free spins, and etc. Are the outcomes of how much you can win already decided when you hit the bonus?

For example, let's say I hit the bonus for buffalo or the wheel of fortune machine, is my bonus $ outcome already chosen regardless of when I push the spin the wheel button?

yes I think the second u push the bonus everything is determined, even sub spins in the bonus features.

the only exception is picking bonuses that aren't predetermined in some older games.

I think that bonus spins are all random now some picking bonuses may be predetermined to part way predetermined

Quote: SiegfriedRoy

I understand the basic workings of a slot machine. If you hit the spin button fraction of a second early or late, it will give you a different outcome. You may have missed a jackpot by a tenth of a second...

When a slot machine rewards you with a bonus like the Buffalo machine, free spins, and etc. Are the outcomes of how much you can win already decided when you hit the bonus?

For example, let's say I hit the bonus for buffalo or the wheel of fortune machine, is my bonus $ outcome already chosen regardless of when I push the spin the wheel button?

related to each individual spin in a bonus, it is determined immediately at the time of the spin. The machines do not pre-determine the entire bonus round amount in advance. Note this applies to Class III machines. Class II machines would be a different story.

Quote: rsactuary

related to each individual spin in a bonus, it is determined immediately at the time of the spin. The machines do not pre-determine the entire bonus round amount in advance. Note this applies to Class III machines. Class II machines would be a different story.

can you give me an example of a Class III machine? What are Class Is and IIs?

I don't know. I can say often times when you get the bonus, during the spin, you "know" the bonus will come, somehow there is a tell. I think spins the bonus comes take longer to finish. Maybe the machine is calculating the bonus, delaying. I don't worry about it, either I want to play or I don't. I don't usually think to start the bonus quickly or patiently, trying to land what I desire. If I had any certain clue what I did when i hit top jackpots, I might try duplicating whatever I did, but I'm clueless, no memory. I mean if you knew exactly how you pressed and where, most people would try duplicating it just in case a few times.

Aruze Gaming games do a lot of that ramp up to an bonus stuff.

My wife and I like to play slots together and take turns hitting the spin button. When one of us hits a bonus, we let the other person start the bonus (whether it's a buffalo, cleopatra, or wheel of fortune). You get the picture. Since we're married, there is no financial conflict since it's both our money.

Ok... here is a question for you. There has been a case where a Florida man was denied his jackpot and was given to his "friend" because the jackpot is given to whomever hit the button.

http://www.fox13news.com/news/florida-news/florida-man-denied-100000-jackpot-because-friend-hit-button-instead

Now, there are a lot of slot teams that pool their money together. One of their go-to machines are high-limit wheel of fortune. They typically take turns pushing the max-bet button. When they trigger the WOF bonus, there are times when the WOF spin "honor" is bestowed to somebody special. If a jackpot is won, does the original bonus-triggering person take the W-2, or the bestowed honoree who spun the jackpot? This is why I am cautious of recreational slot teams.

Quote: SiegfriedRoy

This is why I am cautious of recreational slot teams.

Be cautious of all teams. Interests can easily diverge. One cheerleader gets hurt and suddenly its lawsuit time, one sports team member gets hurt and suddenly lawyers get involved, one slot team is involved and suddenly it becomes 'we shared for small prizes, but we ain't gonna share for super large prizes. Have it in writing or don't do it. Eons ago I was designated to buy a weekly lottery ticket for the office, I wrote on the actual ticket face 'office pool (date)' just in case 'my' ticket won. No arguments.

That Florida case was HIS quarter but HER button press and she kept ALL the money even milked him for more by meeting with him to discuss the winnings. Maybe he knew the rules, maybe he did not but he was a fool either way.

Husbands and wives don't have financial conflicts? Just you ask a divorce lawyer, particularly one in a Community Property state.

You think a judge is going to be concerned with the innards of a slot machine? By the time something such as a slot machine win gets to court, the money is gone on lawyers anyway. Put it in writing and stay out of court.

Quote: FleaStiff

Be cautious of all teams. Interests can easily diverge. One cheerleader gets hurt and suddenly its lawsuit time, one sports team member gets hurt and suddenly lawyers get involved, one slot team is involved and suddenly it becomes 'we shared for small prizes, but we ain't gonna share for super large prizes. Have it in writing or don't do it. Eons ago I was designated to buy a weekly lottery ticket for the office, I wrote on the actual ticket face 'office pool (date)' just in case 'my' ticket won. No arguments.

That Florida case was HIS quarter but HER button press and she kept ALL the money even milked him for more by meeting with him to discuss the winnings. Maybe he knew the rules, maybe he did not but he was a fool either way.

Husbands and wives don't have financial conflicts? Just you ask a divorce lawyer, particularly one in a Community Property state.

You think a judge is going to be concerned with the innards of a slot machine? By the time something such as a slot machine win gets to court, the money is gone on lawyers anyway. Put it in writing and stay out of court.

I concur that having it in writing is the best way. Even better is to sign the paper in front of a Lawyer or Notary and have the Lawyer or Notary sign on it too as a witness.

Quote: SiegfriedRoy

My wife and I like to play slots together and take turns hitting the spin button. When one of us hits a bonus, we let the other person start the bonus (whether it's a buffalo, cleopatra, or wheel of fortune). You get the picture. Since we're married, there is no financial conflict since it's both our money.

Ok... here is a question for you. There has been a case where a Florida man was denied his jackpot and was given to his "friend" because the jackpot is given to whomever hit the button.

http://www.fox13news.com/news/florida-news/florida-man-denied-100000-jackpot-because-friend-hit-button-instead

Now, there are a lot of slot teams that pool their money together. One of their go-to machines are high-limit wheel of fortune. They typically take turns pushing the max-bet button. When they trigger the WOF bonus, there are times when the WOF spin "honor" is bestowed to somebody special. If a jackpot is won, does the original bonus-triggering person take the W-2, or the bestowed honoree who spun the jackpot? This is why I am cautious of recreational slot teams.

The second person didn't wager any money. It's kind of like you buy a desk, and the second person just managed to put it together(or maybe the desk put itself together).

Quote: onenickelmiracle

The second person didn't wager any money. It's kind of like you buy a desk, and the second person just managed to put it together(or maybe the desk put itself together).

That’s not a good analogy. Per the threads I’ve read on this site, the RNG for the machine only decided it was a jackpot when she pushed the button. If the man had pushed the button it would have almost certainly been differently timed and he wouldn’t have won the jackpot at all.

The reason for the rule of button pusher is the winner makes perfect sense from the casino’s point of view. That’s what the eye in the sky can see. Casino has no interest in whether the man was loaning or gifting the woman $50.

Quote: unJon

That’s not a good analogy. Per the threads I’ve read on this site, the RNG for the machine only decided it was a jackpot when she pushed the button. If the man had pushed the button it would have almost certainly been differently timed and he wouldn’t have won the jackpot at all.

The reason for the rule of button pusher is the winner makes perfect sense from the casino’s point of view. That’s what the eye in the sky can see. Casino has no interest in whether the man was loaning or gifting the woman $50.

In this example, the person A gambled the money, person B just hit the WOF button to spin the wheel. All casinos care about is who wagered, the person who wagered is the winner.

Quote: onenickelmiracle

In this example, the person A gambled the money, person B just hit the WOF button to spin the wheel. All casinos care about is who wagered, the person who wagered is the winner.

And the rule is that the person that pushes the button is the person who wagered.

Quote: Nathan

have the Notary sign on it too as a witness.

A notarial seal means the notary is acting as a notary and therefore can NOT be a witness to the document, just that someone signed it in the notary's presence. So a will which might require two signatures of witnesses will be deemed to have only one witness if the other witness happens to affix a notarial seal.

Quote: FleaStiff

A notarial seal means the notary is acting as a notary and therefore can NOT be a witness to the document, just that someone signed it in the notary's presence. So a will which might require two signatures of witnesses will be deemed to have only one witness if the other witness happens to affix a notarial seal.

OK, makes sense what you wrote about the Notary. The Lawyer being a Witness to the signing still makes sense. :)