Space Invaders review
August 20th, 2017 at 10:20:44 AM
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To review or not to review: that is the question.
To discuss a game with AP potential or hope no one on planet earth notices!
Space Invaders definitely has some AP opportunities, some more lucrative than others. This is a game receiving a lot of installs and its big and flashy so keeping the game a secret probably isn't gonna happen. That said, those AP's with the skills to figure out the angles will and those that don't have the skill will not have much success. There are varying AP angles here and some quite complicated to run.
None of those will be discussed in this review which will stick to the basics of game play.
The game comes in a flashy bright cabinet with a lower playing screen and a duplicated one above for the masses to watch.
If millennials are the target audience this game is a failure based on my observations. However I saw the game receive quite a lot of attention from middle-aged to senior citizens. Most of the middle-aged people I saw were quite good at playing the arcade portion of the game. Of course, these people most likely played the game in their local arcades when they were teenagers.
And that might be why millennials are not interested. You can't just put a video game out there and expect millennials to play it. What most millennials see when looking at Space Invaders is their grandfathers videogame.
The game consists of a base game which is a traditional slot machine although the game grid is a bit unconventional consisting of 4 high/6 across for 24 symbols. The images onscreen are bright red, blue and green flashy images.
Here is a game screen with several different symbols represented
You can get all the same symbol across the screen for some nice payouts. Here is a $230 win off a $2.50 wager
If that Q in the corner had been the same as the other symbols that would have been an even $300
Bets range from $.50 to $2.50. Make your choice on a touch-screen angled towards you separate from the game screen. This same screen will double as your game controls in the Space Invaders bonus.
As you play, green laser "shots" appear randomly above symbols. You collect these shots as you play the base game. Fifty shots collected gets you into the skill-based bonus round.
Many people who sat down seemed unable to grasp this aspect. One person complained to me that they needed to explain this instead of letting everyone figure it out on their own. Of course, this was said while he completely refused to read the ever-present instructions right on the game screen.
I don't know what more the company can do if people refuse to read! Have a live host at every install???
The shots are collected in a shot bank which has a quarter-dollar motif in keeping with the video game aspect of the slot.
Here is a spin with three shots awarded.
At minimum wager, these rarely appear however at maximum wager they are frequent enough. Anywhere from zero-6 shots per spin with an average of 1-3 can be expected.
Also, you can collect 50 shots instantaneously by getting three bonus symbols in a spin (acts similar to getting a bonus spin or free spin symbols)
There are three plateaus to reach involving the shot bank.
Plateau #1 - 50 shots:
Once there are 50 shots in the shot bank you can opt to play the skill-based Space Invaders game. You will only have 50 shots with which to kill aliens.
You may also opt to return to the base slot game to earn more shots.
Plateau #2 - 100 shots:
Once there are 100 shots in the shot bank you can opt to play the skill-based Space Invaders game OR you can opt to play an RNG luck-style slot bonus which consists of 5 free spins.
You may also opt to return to the base slot game to earn even more shots.
*NOTE* You may opt into the skill based round anywhere between 50-100 shots, however the overage remains in the shot bank.
ex. If you have 79 shots you can opt to play Space Invaders with 50 shots leaving the remaining 29 shots earned in the shot bank. You are that much closer to earning 50 shots again once the bonus is concluded.
Plateau #3 - 150 shots:
This is a must hit bonus round plateau. You can opt to play Space Invaders with 150 shots or play a traditional slot machine with 7 free spins. You cannot go back to the base game without playing the bonus.
*NOTE* You may opt to play either the skill or luck game anytime between plateaus two and three however the bonus will play per plateau level 2.
Ex. if you have 129 shots in the bank, you may only play Space Invaders with 100 shots and the balance of 29 shots will remain in the bank. Likewise, playing the luck game will give you only 5 spins instead of 7 and leaves the remaining 29 shots in the bank.
While playing the base slot game, 3 progressive meters are rising every spin. These start at $25, $50 and $100. They relate to the awards you can get by completing the three levels of the bonus round. They are a little bit complicated to understand so I will cover them momentarily.
If u just want to play Space Invaders and forgo having to earn your way there via playing the luck-based slot you can simply pay $20 to go straight to the videogame. I guess that's inflation since the original arcade only cost a quarter.
When buying your bonus the screen tells you how much the jackpots are for in each level since you didn't earn them in the base slot game.
Buying the bonus for $20 nominally gives you 100 shots.
Where I feel they dropped the ball on this game is the controller. A joystick and fire button ala the original game would have been so cool and spontaneous for most people. Instead there is a touch-screen control which takes a bit of getting used to.
You have three options which you can toggle from a blue button when going into bonus mode.
Fire button left/lateral controls on right - all buttons needing to be pushed during play
The reverse with Fire button right/lateral controls on left - all buttons needing to be pushed during play.
Fire buttons on both left and right with a sliding left/right lateral movement in center. You drag your ships movement across screen instead of button mashing.
The skill bonus is traditional Space Invaders although you are only given one ship, not the ubiquitous three from the arcade machines so don't DIE!
You must fight your way through three levels without being killed.
Here is level one.
This level the aliens don't shoot well. To advance to the next level you must kill all the aliens or...
Shoot the mothership that flies across the screen periodically. This will award all the aliens from that level and advance you to the next level.
It may also award you the progressive jackpot. Here is where an explanation of the progressives is needed to fully understand how it works.
As you shoot each alien you get awarded credits WHICH simultaneously are deducted from the progressive meters. If you succeed in killing all the aliens in a level, the progressive meter would read the base level.
Ex. in level one the meter starts at $25. It goes up as you play the slot base game. Lets say it has risen to $42 by the time you play the skill game. As you kill aliens the credits awarded are deducted from the progressive until all the aliens are killed and the progressive amount is $25 again.
You do not win the full progressive amount seen onscreen by completing the bonus level. In essence, you are simply receiving a fractional rebate of the money collected by the machine while playing the base slot.
If you manage to kill the alien mother ship, you are awarded the aliens but also MAY be awarded the full progressive jackpot. This however is based on an RNG. In other words to get the full progressive for each level, it is based on luck rather than skill
*NOTE* There may be more to it than that. I have some anecdotal evidence there may be a predictable pattern to exploit However, if so, this would constitute an AP/Skill maneuver which will not be covered in this review
Here is level two
This one is harder. The aliens are really gunning for you and their lasers are thicker so watch out.
Level three is really hard. The screen actually morphs to an infinity plane(if that's the proper description). Think of the lettering at the beginning of every Star Wars film and how it goes off into the distance of outer space at a horizon-plane angle. That's how the aliens walk across the screen in level three. Even your lasers are shooting at this angle.
Its difficult but I have witnessed a few skilled players beat this level.
Once all levels are complete, then the game is over. You get the same animation as a win of over 40 times your wager, i.e, $2.50 gets you over $100 win. Its a pretty cool animation.
The game is also over if:
Your ship is destroyed
You run out of shots
For those people skill-clueless, you can opt to play the luck game instead as your bonus round - a traditional slot.
Here you have 5 or 7 spins based on how many shots you earned.
During free spins you can earn shots which go to a completely separate bonus shot bank. This bank is composed of only 15 shots to earn.
You can earn more than 15 shots but those shots from the bonus are wasted.
Every five shots earned gets you one of the 3 bonus amounts in the free spins bonus.
The amounts seem to come out of nowhere but they are actually directly linked to the fractional rebate earned playing the base game. They are the amounts minus the base progressive meters. So the level one amount is what you would win if you killed all the aliens in the level one skill game, etc.
The progressive meters do go up if a level win is not attained so the fractional rebate of prior players is not lost or wasted.
Since you don't have a mother ship to kill, you forfeit winning the progressive base meter amount by killing the mother ship (randomly awarded) however it is made up by the RNG amounts you can win with symbol combinations in each spin.
One seemingly difficult thing to understand for a lot of people I witnessed was the cash-out. It is a two-step cash-out process.
After hitting a physical cash-out button on the machine, you have to then hit a second cash-out on the game screen. This is done so you can be warned you are abandoning shots left behind in the shot bank and if eligible that you have a bonus round available immediately. This seemed to confuse a lot of people who hit cash-out and then assumed a malfunction when the ticket failed to appear. Their eyes almost never went up to the game screen but were glued to the ticket printer. Perhaps in future iterations there can be some adjustment or accommodation.
This is a huge improvement in Skill-based gaming. A lot of people are giving it a chance even if they don't fully grasp how to play.
Players who have skill can skip straight to the videogame.
Players without skill can play it like a traditional slot.
Players who like both can earn their way to the skill game.
Skilled players are basically taking a fractional rebate from the losses of other unskilled players while the casinos continue to obtain their expected return.
Heres hoping they create a Pacman skill game
To discuss a game with AP potential or hope no one on planet earth notices!
Space Invaders definitely has some AP opportunities, some more lucrative than others. This is a game receiving a lot of installs and its big and flashy so keeping the game a secret probably isn't gonna happen. That said, those AP's with the skills to figure out the angles will and those that don't have the skill will not have much success. There are varying AP angles here and some quite complicated to run.
None of those will be discussed in this review which will stick to the basics of game play.
The game comes in a flashy bright cabinet with a lower playing screen and a duplicated one above for the masses to watch.
If millennials are the target audience this game is a failure based on my observations. However I saw the game receive quite a lot of attention from middle-aged to senior citizens. Most of the middle-aged people I saw were quite good at playing the arcade portion of the game. Of course, these people most likely played the game in their local arcades when they were teenagers.
And that might be why millennials are not interested. You can't just put a video game out there and expect millennials to play it. What most millennials see when looking at Space Invaders is their grandfathers videogame.
The game consists of a base game which is a traditional slot machine although the game grid is a bit unconventional consisting of 4 high/6 across for 24 symbols. The images onscreen are bright red, blue and green flashy images.
Here is a game screen with several different symbols represented
You can get all the same symbol across the screen for some nice payouts. Here is a $230 win off a $2.50 wager
If that Q in the corner had been the same as the other symbols that would have been an even $300
Bets range from $.50 to $2.50. Make your choice on a touch-screen angled towards you separate from the game screen. This same screen will double as your game controls in the Space Invaders bonus.
As you play, green laser "shots" appear randomly above symbols. You collect these shots as you play the base game. Fifty shots collected gets you into the skill-based bonus round.
Many people who sat down seemed unable to grasp this aspect. One person complained to me that they needed to explain this instead of letting everyone figure it out on their own. Of course, this was said while he completely refused to read the ever-present instructions right on the game screen.
I don't know what more the company can do if people refuse to read! Have a live host at every install???
The shots are collected in a shot bank which has a quarter-dollar motif in keeping with the video game aspect of the slot.
Here is a spin with three shots awarded.
At minimum wager, these rarely appear however at maximum wager they are frequent enough. Anywhere from zero-6 shots per spin with an average of 1-3 can be expected.
Also, you can collect 50 shots instantaneously by getting three bonus symbols in a spin (acts similar to getting a bonus spin or free spin symbols)
There are three plateaus to reach involving the shot bank.
Plateau #1 - 50 shots:
Once there are 50 shots in the shot bank you can opt to play the skill-based Space Invaders game. You will only have 50 shots with which to kill aliens.
You may also opt to return to the base slot game to earn more shots.
Plateau #2 - 100 shots:
Once there are 100 shots in the shot bank you can opt to play the skill-based Space Invaders game OR you can opt to play an RNG luck-style slot bonus which consists of 5 free spins.
You may also opt to return to the base slot game to earn even more shots.
*NOTE* You may opt into the skill based round anywhere between 50-100 shots, however the overage remains in the shot bank.
ex. If you have 79 shots you can opt to play Space Invaders with 50 shots leaving the remaining 29 shots earned in the shot bank. You are that much closer to earning 50 shots again once the bonus is concluded.
Plateau #3 - 150 shots:
This is a must hit bonus round plateau. You can opt to play Space Invaders with 150 shots or play a traditional slot machine with 7 free spins. You cannot go back to the base game without playing the bonus.
*NOTE* You may opt to play either the skill or luck game anytime between plateaus two and three however the bonus will play per plateau level 2.
Ex. if you have 129 shots in the bank, you may only play Space Invaders with 100 shots and the balance of 29 shots will remain in the bank. Likewise, playing the luck game will give you only 5 spins instead of 7 and leaves the remaining 29 shots in the bank.
While playing the base slot game, 3 progressive meters are rising every spin. These start at $25, $50 and $100. They relate to the awards you can get by completing the three levels of the bonus round. They are a little bit complicated to understand so I will cover them momentarily.
If u just want to play Space Invaders and forgo having to earn your way there via playing the luck-based slot you can simply pay $20 to go straight to the videogame. I guess that's inflation since the original arcade only cost a quarter.
When buying your bonus the screen tells you how much the jackpots are for in each level since you didn't earn them in the base slot game.
Buying the bonus for $20 nominally gives you 100 shots.
Where I feel they dropped the ball on this game is the controller. A joystick and fire button ala the original game would have been so cool and spontaneous for most people. Instead there is a touch-screen control which takes a bit of getting used to.
You have three options which you can toggle from a blue button when going into bonus mode.
Fire button left/lateral controls on right - all buttons needing to be pushed during play
The reverse with Fire button right/lateral controls on left - all buttons needing to be pushed during play.
Fire buttons on both left and right with a sliding left/right lateral movement in center. You drag your ships movement across screen instead of button mashing.
The skill bonus is traditional Space Invaders although you are only given one ship, not the ubiquitous three from the arcade machines so don't DIE!
You must fight your way through three levels without being killed.
Here is level one.
This level the aliens don't shoot well. To advance to the next level you must kill all the aliens or...
Shoot the mothership that flies across the screen periodically. This will award all the aliens from that level and advance you to the next level.
It may also award you the progressive jackpot. Here is where an explanation of the progressives is needed to fully understand how it works.
As you shoot each alien you get awarded credits WHICH simultaneously are deducted from the progressive meters. If you succeed in killing all the aliens in a level, the progressive meter would read the base level.
Ex. in level one the meter starts at $25. It goes up as you play the slot base game. Lets say it has risen to $42 by the time you play the skill game. As you kill aliens the credits awarded are deducted from the progressive until all the aliens are killed and the progressive amount is $25 again.
You do not win the full progressive amount seen onscreen by completing the bonus level. In essence, you are simply receiving a fractional rebate of the money collected by the machine while playing the base slot.
If you manage to kill the alien mother ship, you are awarded the aliens but also MAY be awarded the full progressive jackpot. This however is based on an RNG. In other words to get the full progressive for each level, it is based on luck rather than skill
*NOTE* There may be more to it than that. I have some anecdotal evidence there may be a predictable pattern to exploit However, if so, this would constitute an AP/Skill maneuver which will not be covered in this review
Here is level two
This one is harder. The aliens are really gunning for you and their lasers are thicker so watch out.
Level three is really hard. The screen actually morphs to an infinity plane(if that's the proper description). Think of the lettering at the beginning of every Star Wars film and how it goes off into the distance of outer space at a horizon-plane angle. That's how the aliens walk across the screen in level three. Even your lasers are shooting at this angle.
Its difficult but I have witnessed a few skilled players beat this level.
Once all levels are complete, then the game is over. You get the same animation as a win of over 40 times your wager, i.e, $2.50 gets you over $100 win. Its a pretty cool animation.
The game is also over if:
Your ship is destroyed
You run out of shots
For those people skill-clueless, you can opt to play the luck game instead as your bonus round - a traditional slot.
Here you have 5 or 7 spins based on how many shots you earned.
During free spins you can earn shots which go to a completely separate bonus shot bank. This bank is composed of only 15 shots to earn.
You can earn more than 15 shots but those shots from the bonus are wasted.
Every five shots earned gets you one of the 3 bonus amounts in the free spins bonus.
The amounts seem to come out of nowhere but they are actually directly linked to the fractional rebate earned playing the base game. They are the amounts minus the base progressive meters. So the level one amount is what you would win if you killed all the aliens in the level one skill game, etc.
The progressive meters do go up if a level win is not attained so the fractional rebate of prior players is not lost or wasted.
Since you don't have a mother ship to kill, you forfeit winning the progressive base meter amount by killing the mother ship (randomly awarded) however it is made up by the RNG amounts you can win with symbol combinations in each spin.
One seemingly difficult thing to understand for a lot of people I witnessed was the cash-out. It is a two-step cash-out process.
After hitting a physical cash-out button on the machine, you have to then hit a second cash-out on the game screen. This is done so you can be warned you are abandoning shots left behind in the shot bank and if eligible that you have a bonus round available immediately. This seemed to confuse a lot of people who hit cash-out and then assumed a malfunction when the ticket failed to appear. Their eyes almost never went up to the game screen but were glued to the ticket printer. Perhaps in future iterations there can be some adjustment or accommodation.
This is a huge improvement in Skill-based gaming. A lot of people are giving it a chance even if they don't fully grasp how to play.
Players who have skill can skip straight to the videogame.
Players without skill can play it like a traditional slot.
Players who like both can earn their way to the skill game.
Skilled players are basically taking a fractional rebate from the losses of other unskilled players while the casinos continue to obtain their expected return.
Heres hoping they create a Pacman skill game
Last edited by: darkoz on Aug 20, 2017
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
August 20th, 2017 at 11:17:46 AM
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inb4 the hater party
Nice review though, thanks.
Nice review though, thanks.
August 20th, 2017 at 3:00:42 PM
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Offering skill based slot gaming is -EV for vegas when im in town. Ive won so much money off beating games online with high scores to get prizes such as java games as well as actual video games. Bad timing for vegas to introduce skill based gaming.
Any private business open to the PUBLIC (ie. droned out casinos) cannot have a criminal trespass enforced against an individual without GOOD CAUSE (Disruptive or Disorderly conduct). You will never go to prison for being thrown out of a casino for legal advantage play and then returning because it's simply unconstitutional 'as applied' to the individual. 'As applied' constitutional issues must FIRST be raised in DISTRICT COURT (trial court) to have it thrown out. You CANNOT raise it on APPEAL This is the best kept secret in the world of casinos not just in Vegas but everywhere in the country. Thank me later.
August 20th, 2017 at 3:07:20 PM
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Unfortunatly for you, this is not just some game you practice at, get good at, and beat other players. Knowing when to play, then finding plus EV situations all while dealing with competition getting there first will be the key.Quote: ZenKinGOffering skill based slot gaming is -EV for vegas when im in town. Ive won so much money off beating games online with high scores to get prizes such as java games as well as actual video games. Bad timing for vegas to introduce skill based gaming.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
August 20th, 2017 at 7:26:20 PM
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I've seen this game as I walk by.
some ploppy is playing and gets 1/2 way thru the quarters.
then he quits, and it goes back to like 10 shots (1/10th of a quarter).
this part I don't understand.
explain?
some ploppy is playing and gets 1/2 way thru the quarters.
then he quits, and it goes back to like 10 shots (1/10th of a quarter).
this part I don't understand.
explain?
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice).
Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
August 20th, 2017 at 8:13:18 PM
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Quote: darkozHeres hoping they create a Pacman skill game
Do you have any contacts with Ainsworth? They've got the Pac-man license right now but have been noncommittal to this point about a skill-based casino version.
WMS (pre-merger with Bally and SG) actually looked into a Pac-man slot with skill-based bonus a few years ago. They sent out a survey that had some concept images. The proposed control scheme was atrocious though -- and if it had actually made it to the casino floor it probably would've been yanked in under 2 weeks.
Back on topic though... you should probably specify in what U.S. state you saw Space Invaders and took photos. Just because the machines all look the same does not necessarily mean that they will function identically in all jurisdictions (looking at you, Megabucks and Wheel of Fortune).
August 20th, 2017 at 9:35:25 PM
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Quote: 100xOddsI've seen this game as I walk by.
some ploppy is playing and gets 1/2 way thru the quarters.
then he quits, and it goes back to like 10 shots (1/10th of a quarter).
this part I don't understand.
explain?
That doesnt happen at any of the machines i hav played
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
August 21st, 2017 at 6:59:23 AM
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Quote: darkozthose AP's with the skills to figure out the angles will and those that don't have the skill will not have much success. There are varying AP angles here and some quite complicated to run.
I'm probably in the "will not" category, especially if it requires playing the game to figure out patterns which theoretically shouldn't exist:
Quote:*NOTE* There may be more to it than that. I have some anecdotal evidence there may be a predictable pattern to exploit However, if so, this would constitute an AP/Skill maneuver which will not be covered in this review
I'm not sure how we should comment on your review since we're not supposed to discuss strategy, but the game itself (in Nevada) has an entire page of strategy recommendations, although I find them somewhat incomprehensible and/or counterintuitive. My impression is that most players will achieve better results opting for the free spins bonus. Apparently when a bonus round is available, a practice session is offered, which should be accepted since it's free.
Quote: 100xOddssome ploppy is playing and gets 1/2 way thru the quarters.
then he quits, and it goes back to like 10 shots (1/10th of a quarter).
The quarters go up to 150, so halfway through the stack would be sufficient for a 50-shot bonus round. Did the player cash out or run out of credits? It would be unusual to run the credits down exactly to zero because bet amounts are only in increments of 50.
August 21st, 2017 at 6:59:40 AM
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Quote: darkozThat doesnt happen at any of the machines i hav played
It may be a game setup option the operator can turn on. I programmed a game about five years ago that had an accumulator bonus similar to Space Invaders that had that option. When the player cashed out the accumulator went back to reset but the coins were placed in a hidden bank and would eventually be spread out to future bonus winners. I made sure that the hidden bank was not just awarded to the next player to win the bonus because that would still encourage vulturing. Instead, the next five to ten players hitting the bonus would reap the rewards.
You can't know everything, but you can know anything.
August 21st, 2017 at 7:18:30 AM
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Quote: DRichWhen the player cashed out the accumulator went back to reset but the coins were placed in a hidden bank and would eventually be spread out to future bonus winners. I made sure that the hidden bank was not just awarded to the next player to win the bonus because that would still encourage vulturing. Instead, the next five to ten players hitting the bonus would reap the rewards.
This is why we can't have nice things.
August 21st, 2017 at 7:53:50 AM
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And by "this", you mean this thread? If so, I agree.Quote: HugoSlaviaThis is why we can't have nice things.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
August 21st, 2017 at 7:58:42 AM
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Quote: DRichIt may be a game setup option the operator can turn on. I programmed a game about five years ago that had an accumulator bonus similar to Space Invaders that had that option. When the player cashed out the accumulator went back to reset but the coins were placed in a hidden bank and would eventually be spread out to future bonus winners. I made sure that the hidden bank was not just awarded to the next player to win the bonus because that would still encourage vulturing. Instead, the next five to ten players hitting the bonus would reap the rewards.
I see
The installs i hav played show you this screen when cashing out
If you complete cash-out the shot bank reflects the very same amount
In fact it says under the red button the shots collected will remain in the bank
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
August 21st, 2017 at 10:06:58 AM
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I will tell you, in downtown there are already pros watching this game or ploppies have been smart this week. The most shots I have seen is 10.
Expect the worst and you will never be disappointed.
I AM NOT PART OF GWAE RADIO SHOW
August 21st, 2017 at 10:56:06 AM
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Quote: GWAEI will tell you, in downtown there are already pros watching this game or ploppies have been smart this week. The most shots I have seen is 10.
In my opinion vulturing shots is a minimal almost non-existent play on this game
After the first plateau every person cashing out is given a warning they are abandoning shots AND are eligible for a bonus round immediately
Even the most clueless ploppie is gonna choose to sit and play off the bonus
There are other opportunities here that only experienced pros will get
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
August 21st, 2017 at 3:15:05 PM
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Quote: HugoSlaviaThe quarters go up to 150, so halfway through the stack would be sufficient for a 50-shot bonus round. Did the player cash out or run out of credits? It would be unusual to run the credits down exactly to zero because bet amounts are only in increments of 50.
ahh thx. he must have played the bonus round b4 leaving.
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice).
Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
February 26th, 2018 at 8:40:53 PM
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When you kill an alien, which of the three bonus meters pays?
Are all the aliens on the screen of equal value?
Are all the aliens on the screen of equal value?
February 26th, 2018 at 8:49:38 PM
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Quote: prozemaWhen you kill an alien, which of the three bonus meters pays?
Are all the aliens on the screen of equal value?
There are 3 bonus meters and 3 rounds of play. Each round corresponds to one of the meters.
The aliens are not of equal value. Not sure how it is apportioned out or maybe its random but all the aliens scores add up to the value of the meter for that round. Each killed alien the amount won is deducted from that rounds meter
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
February 26th, 2018 at 9:21:44 PM
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I think I get it.
In one sense, It's like haywire vp where you are dealing with an average value...
Level 1 meter is 42, so each of the 55 ailens are worth about $0.31 on average based on a $25 reset value.
If the level 1 meter was 102, each alien on level 1 would be worth $1.40 on average.
In another sense... It seems really hard (impossible) to kill 165 aliens with 150 shots so most of the value is in the lower meters like the motorcycle game.
I guess if the meters carry over to the luck bonus, I don't need to spend much time practicing my alien killing anyways.... The one life thing with crappy controls is unappealing.
EDIT: I'd bet I could get 15 of them on level 1 thought...
In one sense, It's like haywire vp where you are dealing with an average value...
Level 1 meter is 42, so each of the 55 ailens are worth about $0.31 on average based on a $25 reset value.
If the level 1 meter was 102, each alien on level 1 would be worth $1.40 on average.
In another sense... It seems really hard (impossible) to kill 165 aliens with 150 shots so most of the value is in the lower meters like the motorcycle game.
I guess if the meters carry over to the luck bonus, I don't need to spend much time practicing my alien killing anyways.... The one life thing with crappy controls is unappealing.
EDIT: I'd bet I could get 15 of them on level 1 thought...
February 27th, 2018 at 12:26:01 AM
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Quote: darkozThere are 3 bonus meters and 3 rounds of play. Each round corresponds to one of the meters.
The aliens are not of equal value. Not sure how it is apportioned out or maybe its random but all the aliens scores add up to the value of the meter for that round. Each killed alien the amount won is deducted from that rounds meter
You are a million percent wrong, the aliens Do not do not do not add up to the meter
February 27th, 2018 at 3:54:23 AM
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Quote: prozemaI think I get it.
In one sense, It's like haywire vp where you are dealing with an average value...
Level 1 meter is 42, so each of the 55 ailens are worth about $0.31 on average based on a $25 reset value.
If the level 1 meter was 102, each alien on level 1 would be worth $1.40 on average.
In another sense... It seems really hard (impossible) to kill 165 aliens with 150 shots so most of the value is in the lower meters like the motorcycle game.
I guess if the meters carry over to the luck bonus, I don't need to spend much time practicing my alien killing anyways.... The one life thing with crappy controls is unappealing.
EDIT: I'd bet I could get 15 of them on level 1 thought...
Shooting the mother ship awards all the aliens for that level so you dont need to use all your shots at any level. All u need is one shot per level in theory although i seem to recall a minimum number of aliens (like six or ten effected something with the payout)
Also to address RCcatskills yes he is correct. The aliens killed do not add up to the value of the meter. They add up to the ADDED value of the meter
So meter one resets to $25. As you play the meter rises. Lets say its at $40 when you play the bonus round. The aliens add up to the $15 over the reset meter. Not the full value of the visible meter
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February 27th, 2018 at 4:57:28 AM
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You'd have to catch the mother ship at the screen edge if you want to kill that thing and no aliens. Unless you know when the ship is coming, the left side would be tough. Looks like it's one shot at a time. It's a shame you can't rapid fire up the right side an let that mother ship run into a wall of lasers.
February 27th, 2018 at 6:43:59 AM
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Quote: prozemaYou'd have to catch the mother ship at the screen edge if you want to kill that thing and no aliens. Unless you know when the ship is coming, the left side would be tough. Looks like it's one shot at a time. It's a shame you can't rapid fire up the right side an let that mother ship run into a wall of lasers.
Well strategy would be shoot a single column in the center so you have a clear shot. They come from either side so in the center you have enough warning to time it
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February 27th, 2018 at 7:03:08 AM
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so pop in a $20bill to buy the bonus round, then kill the mothership at each level?Quote: darkozShooting the mother ship awards all the aliens for that level so you dont need to use all your shots at any level. All u need is one shot per level in theory although i seem to recall a minimum number of aliens (like six or ten effected something with the payout)
Also to address RCcatskills yes he is correct. The aliens killed do not add up to the value of the meter. They add up to the ADDED value of the meter
So meter one resets to $25. As you play the meter rises. Lets say its at $40 when you play the bonus round. The aliens add up to the $15 over the reset meter. Not the full value of the visible meter
profit?
rinse/repeat
become a skilled-gaming gazillionaire
Where's the flaw in my plan?
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Craps is paradise (Pair of dice).
Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
February 27th, 2018 at 7:14:05 AM
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Quote: 100xOddsso pop in a $20bill to buy the bonus round, then kill the mothership at each level?
profit?
rinse/repeat
become a skilled-gaming gazillionaire
Where's the hole in my plan?
The hole is the ADDED value assigned to the meter when buying. It may be only 2-3 dollars added so getting the mother ship is only worth a few dollars. $28 bonus meter would give you a $3 win for the first round ($3 above the $25 reset)
But there probably is a means to make small profit as a skilled gamer if you can repeatedly win all 3 rounds. Each round is successively harder
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February 27th, 2018 at 7:24:25 AM
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There is not a way to make a repeated profit playing over and over. There are external factors in between that are needed. Just my two cents. Rw
February 27th, 2018 at 8:16:30 AM
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Quote: RwcatskillsThere is not a way to make a repeated profit playing over and over. There are external factors in between that are needed. Just my two cents. Rw
There is an AP means of doing it. Requires a large gamer skill set beyond my means to learn. But i am aware of it and watched a pro in action
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February 27th, 2018 at 8:20:39 AM
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Well speaking , of facts it’s impossible to play over and over in back to back to back games
March 3rd, 2018 at 11:11:46 AM
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Level Advance doesn't award you the remaining aliens. Seems to come up 20% of the time when you hit the mother ship but I only have 2 days of playing data.
The mother ship doesn't have to come out. I was killed by touching aliens (they ate through the protection bunkers) and no ship went by.
The mother ship doesn't have to come out. I was killed by touching aliens (they ate through the protection bunkers) and no ship went by.
