brownsfan221
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February 12th, 2016 at 2:57:40 AM permalink
So I go to the hardrock racino near cleveland. I get $80 every three days and its about a 30 minute drive from me to the racino and I was wondering the best way to get the most cash back from my free play since its a racino they don't have table games or VP. I just don't want to drive that far just to turn around immediately. Maybe $1 machine only $1 a pull or minimum bet at a video slot for 40¢ or 50¢ a spin and what amount should I load at a time? I don't have to wait til the free play is spent to cash out I would just get my winnings and any remaining free play would remain on the machine
ukaserex
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February 12th, 2016 at 7:07:30 AM permalink
With no vp, my best advice would be to hedge your bets. Play a few pulls on a higher denomination machine, see if you get lucky. If not, head to a smaller denomination.

You could also look for some of those "must hit" machines, where they have to give a jackpot at $X, and if you see the meter at X minus $5, give it a shot.
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February 12th, 2016 at 7:37:47 AM permalink
The last time I had purely slot free play (150) I went to a $1 high limit triple double diamond machine and played for 20 min. Hit triple triple 3bar for 270 and cashed it out. Take a poke at a good payout if you're just playing your free play to collect it. If you're going there to gamble then just use it on whatever machines you normally play for a buffer.
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
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February 12th, 2016 at 8:10:21 AM permalink
I'm just wanting it to last as long as possible and possibly win. They are doing drawing every half hour so I hope to stretch it at least 2 hours if possible if I spend any real money wife would kill me lol
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February 12th, 2016 at 8:12:12 AM permalink
Did you just bet one line? So just $1 per spin
Quote: Romes

The last time I had purely slot free play (150) I went to a $1 high limit triple double diamond machine and played for 20 min. Hit triple triple 3bar for 270 and cashed it out. Take a poke at a good payout if you're just playing your free play to collect it. If you're going there to gamble then just use it on whatever machines you normally play for a buffer.

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February 12th, 2016 at 8:20:10 AM permalink
Quote: ukaserex

With no vp, my best advice would be to hedge your bets. Play a few pulls on a higher denomination machine, see if you get lucky. If not, head to a smaller denomination..



How is that hedging your bets?
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February 12th, 2016 at 8:43:57 AM permalink
Quote: brownsfan221

Did you just bet one line? So just $1 per spin

No, I max bet. I find the level/etc that I'm good with my free play lasting a little, while max betting.
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
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February 12th, 2016 at 10:28:44 AM permalink
Quote: rsactuary

How is that hedging your bets?



With each pull, there is a risk. At a lower denomination, say a quarter, with max coin bet, depending on machine that could be 50 cents, or $1.25, or even more.


And, obviously, with a $5 per credit machine, you're risking more value.

So, if you split up the free play across different denominations, you have hedged your bets. A few "eggs" in varying baskets, instead of all of them at one machine.


Now, it could be argued that the risk is the same regardless of denomination, but that's not entirely true. The odds of winning any given pay-line may be the same across denominations, but the value of the free play risked is different with differing denominations. To that end, in my mind, you have a better chance playing a quarter than $5 per credit, as you are likely to have more pulls/spins.
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February 12th, 2016 at 11:16:28 AM permalink
Quote: ukaserex

With each pull, there is a risk. At a lower denomination, say a quarter, with max coin bet, depending on machine that could be 50 cents, or $1.25, or even more.


And, obviously, with a $5 per credit machine, you're risking more value.

So, if you split up the free play across different denominations, you have hedged your bets. A few "eggs" in varying baskets, instead of all of them at one machine.


Now, it could be argued that the risk is the same regardless of denomination, but that's not entirely true. The odds of winning any given pay-line may be the same across denominations, but the value of the free play risked is different with differing denominations. To that end, in my mind, you have a better chance playing a quarter than $5 per credit, as you are likely to have more pulls/spins.



You could call that various things.. but hedging isn't one of them. Hedging is the elimination of risk... that's not what you are describing.
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February 12th, 2016 at 1:04:02 PM permalink
Quote: ukaserex

With each pull, there is a risk. At a lower denomination, say a quarter, with max coin bet, depending on machine that could be 50 cents, or $1.25, or even more.


And, obviously, with a $5 per credit machine, you're risking more value.

So, if you split up the free play across different denominations, you have hedged your bets. A few "eggs" in varying baskets, instead of all of them at one machine.


Now, it could be argued that the risk is the same regardless of denomination, but that's not entirely true. The odds of winning any given pay-line may be the same across denominations, but the value of the free play risked is different with differing denominations. To that end, in my mind, you have a better chance playing a quarter than $5 per credit, as you are likely to have more pulls/spins.



Reading this made my head hurt...
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February 12th, 2016 at 3:28:28 PM permalink
Someone in this thread doesn't know what hedge means.
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February 12th, 2016 at 6:39:28 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

Someone in this thread doesn't know what hedge means.

I agree. Mixing up your bets isn't hedging IMO. It's just that, Mixing it up.

The problem we have is the OP wants the best of both worlds and with $80 in FP that's a tough gig. If he wants it to last he needs to play low denominations and less coins per line. Unfortunately you're probably not going to have a good chance of making a score.

I'm more interested in knowing how much coin in it took to get that $80 every 3 days and how long he's getting FP for. If its all month that sounds fairly good unless he slammed in a significant amount.
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February 12th, 2016 at 10:55:08 PM permalink
Oy, you admit you're a Browns fan?
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February 13th, 2016 at 12:02:13 AM permalink
This is what I did on a dollar slot in free play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm7tZm_sZ7s

and this is what I did breaking it up and playing penny slots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25030CbZWxU
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February 17th, 2016 at 4:21:07 AM permalink
Quote: brownsfan221

I'm just wanting it to last as long as possible and possibly win. They are doing drawing every half hour so I hope to stretch it at least 2 hours if possible if I spend any real money wife would kill me lol



Do they not have Keno games?
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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