Wonko33
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November 22nd, 2015 at 11:02:26 AM permalink
Is there a way to calculate the odds of having a winning spin? Could be for any amount, even less than the bet . Is it just "slot voodoo" and nobody knows or can i tell by number of lines and such?

I want to play "Slot golf" with some family members to keep them entertained (they are not avid gamblers) and I am trying to figure out what a good starting amount would be.

Slot Golf:
a group all pools in a certain "ante" on the machine, first player goes and spins until a winning spin, the number of times it takes is their score for that "hole" then the next player plays the same machine etc...

After all have played, cash out the pool money , and a player picks the next slot, repeat for 9 or 18 "holes"

The player with the lowest score wins whats left of the antes..
So Wizard, still no basic strategy for strip poker huh?
ThatDonGuy
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November 22nd, 2015 at 1:53:51 PM permalink
If it's a one-line machine, then no, you can't, as each symbol doesn't necessarily come up with equal probability.

If it's a multi-line machine, where every visible position can be on at least one line if you play the maximum number, then each symbol on a reel "should" come up with equal probability (otherwise some lines would be more likely to win than others), but you would have to go through every possible winning result to determine the probability.
MathExtremist
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November 22nd, 2015 at 2:16:22 PM permalink
Quote: Wonko33

Is there a way to calculate the odds of having a winning spin? Could be for any amount, even less than the bet .

The short answer is no. It varies from game to game, besides.

There are several reverse-engineering techniques you can use, or if you have the access you can look at par sheets for the game. But for the average gambler off the street (not part of the gaming industry) there's no convenient way to know that.

However, you could very easily do the golf-style game you're thinking about by monopolizing a roulette table. Everyone picks a different double-street, etc.
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beachbumbabs
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November 22nd, 2015 at 2:43:28 PM permalink
Quote: Wonko33

Is there a way to calculate the odds of having a winning spin? Could be for any amount, even less than the bet . Is it just "slot voodoo" and nobody knows or can i tell by number of lines and such?

I want to play "Slot golf" with some family members to keep them entertained (they are not avid gamblers) and I am trying to figure out what a good starting amount would be.

Slot Golf:
a group all pools in a certain "ante" on the machine, first player goes and spins until a winning spin, the number of times it takes is their score for that "hole" then the next player plays the same machine etc...

After all have played, cash out the pool money , and a player picks the next slot, repeat for 9 or 18 "holes"

The player with the lowest score wins whats left of the antes..

Not contradicting the two posts above, but there's a range of slots, especially pennies, that give you a lot of little wins, often below your bet amount, but they hit frequently. You'll find them (in my experience) more often in the 40-50 line games that don't have a progressive. It's also been my experience on Quick Hit Platinum that you rarely go more than 3 spins without some kind of win, even though it has a progressive, but probably 1/2 or more of those are for less than your bet, just to mention 1 specific slot. If you don't mind making your odds a little worse by not playing for the progressive amounts, you can play those for 30 cents a spin (you do get paid if you hit the progressive symbols, just not as much).
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Wonko33
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November 23rd, 2015 at 11:37:12 AM permalink
Thx for replies

I guess I'm going to have to try it out a few times too see what amount would be fun for the ante/pool

I would just put 50\$ each , that way I'm pretty sure there would be money left but the people I want to play with will probably want less.
So Wizard, still no basic strategy for strip poker huh?
SlotCoach1
Joined: Dec 22, 2015
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December 22nd, 2015 at 11:54:58 AM permalink
Quote: Wonko33

Thx for replies

I guess I'm going to have to try it out a few times too see what amount would be fun for the ante/pool

I would just put 50\$ each , that way I'm pretty sure there would be money left but the people I want to play with will probably want less.

That is what I'm doing. Setting a limit and see if there is something to win.
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