Free play not equaling amount in cash?

Three times in a row, I got $5 in free play that hasn't even added up to $3 in cash(one week was about $2.80, second time I got $1.44, and today, I got .93. I am really starting to resent the $5 free play promotion, as you have to spend at least $5 just to get it and then don't even get the equal amount in cash.

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What are you playing?

Well clearly it's not vp based on those numbers so it's some penny a a lot machine- this dude is laughing at every post be makes, there is not a chance in the world this isn't someone just spewing it in here

Quote: Wizardofnothing

Well clearly it's not vp based on those numbers so it's some penny a a lot machine- this dude is laughing at every post be makes, there is not a chance in the world this isn't someone just spewing it in here

There are several here that have appeared before. You can be destructive, or you can try to contribute and 'do better' this time around. Which do the authorities wish to keep? That from 2F.

Quote: Kentry

Three times in a row, I got $5 in free play that hasn't even added up to $3 in cash(one week was about $2.80, second time I got $1.44, and today, I got .93. I am really starting to resent the $5 free play promotion, as you have to spend at least $5 just to get it and then don't even get the equal amount in cash.

I'm sorry to say this, but your Casino sucks if they only give $5 in free play. Many slotters have mentioned that they get $100 in free play. Plus, the fact that the money you get in cash has been gradually going down each week is another warning sign that your Casino is sucky.

Quote: Dean

I'm sorry to say this, but your Casino sucks if they only give $5 in free play. Many slotters have mentioned that they get $100 in free play. Plus, the fact that the money you get in cash has been gradually going down each week is another warning sign that your Casino is sucky.

I'm not sure you have enough information to claim this casino sucks just because HE only got $5 in FP, we have no idea how much he originally played.

There's many factors that go into getting free play. Some of the best casinos start you out with only $5 in free play. It may be a deal where you only have to play $5 to get $5. That's a hell of a deal if you're almost broke and can't even afford a haircut.

From the original story I assume this kid didn't give the casino much more than a few bucks in action in the first place, so that tells me they do probably give good free play.

Its obvious he just doesn't know how to play free play, He certainly doesn't know how minimizing variance.

If he is getting the same amount in free play each time, the fact that the amount of cash he he's been generating from that has been going down really has nothing to do with the casino being sucky or not.

basically everything you just said is probably way off base.

Axel beat me to it. Pretty much everything he said I back up.

I don't know any casino that gives $5 free-play for $5 action. The best promotions (aside from one-offs like a new membership) are usually about fifty coin-in will get you ten bucks in free action.

What the OP is doing may be offset betting (e-craps or e-roulette) to earn points sufficient for the promotion at a cost of $5. (the OP seemed pretty definite it costs $5 so that points to this action) and is upset he is not making a profit.

With only $5 free-play it is very difficult to turn that over at slots. Too small to experiment on a machine to see how its doing and move on.

Also, we don't know where he lives. Don't forget some states, video poker is class II only so his option may really only be slots.

I play in Hialeah Park Casino. If you put $5 in cash, you get $5 in free play. It's 1 cent a line slots that I play.

Quote: Kentry

I play in Hialeah Park Casino. If you put $5 in cash, you get $5 in free play. It's 1 cent a line slots that I play.

Okay as a promotion that's excellent.

Now, its $5 coin-in, right? Or $5 loss?

In other words, are you getting this as a loss rebate or simply for gambling $5? Can you win money and still get the free-play?

Many small casinos in Northern California have slot "match plays"

40 for 20 (Give club $20 & they put $40 FP on your card)
Play 20, get 20.
30 for 20.
Play 10, get 10.
Play 5, get 5.

Win or lose, you get the extra FP.

Men's day. Women's day. Senior day. Graveyard special.

Another local Casino near me (Miami Jai Alai)as much better free play than Hialeah Park Casino. They send you $3 in free play once a week and you don't even have to play any cash to get it. Plus, you get a Minimum of $5 when they send you a scratch off voucher in the mail, only valid on Tuesdays and is not eligible with $3 free play, and you don't play any cash either to be eligible for Scratch off Tuesdays either.

I was able to change almost the whole amount of $3 free play into cash(I was only about 10 cents off from getting the full $3 in cash. Much better than my three losing free play trips to Hialeah.

Quote: darkoz

Okay as a promotion that's excellent.

Now, its $5 coin-in, right? Or $5 loss?

In other words, are you getting this as a loss rebate or simply for gambling $5? Can you win money and still get the free-play?

Yes. Whatever money you win is yours. For example, I put in a $5 bill in Treasures Of Troy and I ended up getting a good hit that doubled my money(Think it was four Helen symbols for $5). I was able to keep the extra $5 that I won and I still got the $5 in free play. :)

All I can say is I like Free Play. I know it's a lure, but typically, I do better on free play than with my own cash.

One casino, Boomtown in Biloxi/Ocean Springs will let your free play load to the machine - and you don't even have to play it. You can just cash it out and leave.

I've yet to do this, as I went there to gamble. A free 40 to 100 bucks is nice though. Well worth the trip from Mobile.

I've gotten into a bit of a habit spreading my play around so that I can get free play at multiple spots. It doesn't seem like a casino will reward frequent, loyal play the way they should. I go once a week, sometimes every other week and bring $400 bucks each time. I got $20 bucks in bonus free play, plus $60 for each of the 5 weeks in November. My mother has gone three times this year, took $100 and they are sending her a $30 bonus in free play, with just $25 per week. I get more, but given the disparity in amount gamed, it would seem like I should get a lot more.

So, after spreading out my play from just the Palace to the IP, Boomtown and Harrah's,, with the same $, I've increased my free play by quite a bit.

It's annoying moving to each different casino sometimes, but I ask myself if I'd drive for 5 minutes to get $X dollars. Usually the answer is yes.

Quote: ukaserex

One casino, Boomtown in Biloxi/Ocean Springs will let your free play load to the machine - and you don't even have to play it. You can just cash it out and leave.

Barona (San Diego) gives you cash. I get coupons for $75, and just take them to the cashier.
No need to play the $75 through a machine.

Quote: Kentry

Three times in a row, I got $5 in free play that hasn't even added up to $3 in cash(one week was about $2.80, second time I got $1.44, and today, I got .93. I am really starting to resent the $5 free play promotion, as you have to spend at least $5 just to get it and then don't even get the equal amount in cash.

First of all, your title claim "Free play not equaling amount in cash?" should be obvious. Freeplay is not a win, it is merely free coin-in. While it is everyone's desire to win more money than they put into the machine, I think everyone knows that the expected return is less.

It is my understanding that the player must insert a minimum of $5 into the machine to be able to use the freeplay. After each spin, the amount bet is reduced from the freeplay and added to your credit balance. So if you have $5 freeplay and put $5 into the machine, the machine will show $5 credit. If you spin for $1, the remaining freeplay balance will be $4 and your credit will still be $5 plus any winnings from the spin. After five spins, the freeplay balance will be $0 and your credit will be $5 plus the winnings from the five spins. You can cash out now, not having spent any money, and pocket whatever winnings you made from the freeplay.

I used $25 freeplay tonight at $1 per spin and won around $2.

Blue there are in fairness other types of freeplay where you do not need to insert any money. I'd say it's about 50-50 from casino to casino,
But in reality I doubt anyone is traveling anywhere for 5 dollars so there isn't any real point to debate with him -the bus and gas would both make it a complete waste of time

Quote: BlueEagle

I used $25 freeplay tonight at $1 per spin and won around $2.

Was it your bday money? I friggen chose the blue present for 15 when the green was 1k :(. I dont know why either i couldnt get my kids voice saying green out of my head after. Captain Hindsight wins again.

If it was a kiosk game it most likely didn't matter which you picked it would have been 15 . A lot of kiosk are basically like class 2 game in a sense and the button you hit would not matter

Quote: Pinit2winit

Was it your bday money? I friggen chose the blue present for 15 when the green was 1k :(.

I also picked the blue and got $15. The additional $10 was from the Aliante Armada kiosk game. I went back today, got another $10 freeplay, and won over $50 from a Quick Hit machine.

Quote: Wizardofnothing

If it was a kiosk game it most likely didn't matter which you picked it would have been 15 . A lot of kiosk are basically like class 2 game in a sense and the button you hit would not matter

I was curious if the outcome was predetermined. Every time I have to pick something on a screen, I wonder if it will be the same result regardless of which widget(s) I choose or if each widget really has its own prize.

Quote: BlueEagle

I was curious if the outcome was predetermined. Every time I have to pick something on a screen, I wonder if it will be the same result regardless of which widget(s) I choose or if each widget really has its own prize.

It depends. If it's something like a shark, gift box, christmas deer, etc. then it can do whatever it wants (probably not "fair").

If it's something like a die rolling, then the number the die lands on has to be fair, meaning 1/6 chance for each of the sides to land on.