Tiltpoul
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August 18th, 2012 at 5:23:36 PM permalink
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I play Miss Kitty machines in the Tunica casinos and I don't recall ever seeing anything about being able to select hit options.



At this point, I believe the slot machines have only been approved and tested in Nevada. If you're dying to know, I'll text my friend and find out the distribution points for the Variance-choice games.

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I don't know if it's that most slot players don't care, Tiltpoul, but that video slots, especially the Aristocrat line, seem to confuse some of the older players. I like Aristocrat games, my favorite being Pompeii, where there are no paylines per se, but you get paid for symbols simply being on adjacent reels. I got my friend to play them and she enjoys the heck out of them, but has no idea why she wins on any spin.



If a machine gets installed and gets little to no play, there can be a number of reasons. I think the concept is great, but they are appealing to the wrong players. I suggested to my friend that it should be on recognizable commodities, but he said that brand protection at Aristocrat is really important; why screw up a good thing?

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The Miss Kitty game has what they call "sticky wilds" during the bonus free spin round, where when any of the Miss Kitty symbols show up, they stay where they are for any subsequent spins. You can rack up quite a nice amount that way, but the bonus doesn't come around all that often.



Yeah, my Mom hit for almost 1000 dollars on Miss Kitty one time. That "Meow" can get really annoying if you're sitting nearby though.

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But as I was saying, I notice that when I go to the casinos, I see most of the older folks playing familiar games like Monopoly and Jackpot Party and video slots that have the simple pick 'em type of bonuses or bonus rounds that come with a story, and very few playing the Aristocrat games (unless they're locals).



The Aristocrat games have a much stronger following in the Midwest markets. They definitely get a following, but it takes a while to grow it.
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FarFromVegas
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August 18th, 2012 at 5:51:55 PM permalink
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Since I mentioned Zeus II with its stacked symbols, I thought I might also mention that you can play it free if you're on Facebook, at their Jackpot Party Casino game app. The game plays exactly like it does in the casino, but of course you're only playing with points.

There's also a site that will let you download the 50 Lions game and it too plays exactly the same as the real thing minus the real money part.

I hope I don't get in trouble for saying any of this. It's not meant to be an advertisement of anything and I get absolutely nothing if you play either game.



Zeus II is probably the game I play most, but I don't do Facebook. I might consider joining some day, but have resisted so far. I do enjoy playing the free games at Bovada and LED gaming to get a feel for them before playing them in a casino.

It's funny--my two sisters who married men with very common last names are on Facebook, and the one sister and I who married men with very unusual last names aren't. I guess it's a safety concern for both of us--we're too easy to find if someone got the notion.
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tsmith
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August 18th, 2012 at 6:21:44 PM permalink
There's no rule that says you have to use your real name on FB. You can join using Far From Vegas as your name and play all the games you want and nobody will ever know it's you.

If you're interested in downloading the 50 Lions game, shoot me a PM and I'll give you the website name. It has nothing to do with FB; it goes directly onto your hard drive so you don't even have to go online to play it.
Mission146
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August 18th, 2012 at 6:34:23 PM permalink
I think the game designers are out of their minds for making some of these games freely available. I can sort of understand the theory that one may be enticed to go to the casino if they perform well in the free version, but alternatively, if the ER is still set to be negative, one would think that would discourage people from going to the casino, and if they do, at least, from playing that game.

Furthermore, there are many who play the slots for the experience, and really aren't concerned with anything besides hitting a jackpot or its opposite. If such a person is satisfied by playing the games they love for free, perhaps the casino will never see them again.
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tsmith
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August 18th, 2012 at 6:46:56 PM permalink
Well, the way it works on Facebook is that the people who put these "real" games out there are hoping that people will get hooked by them (because they are familiar) to the point that they will actually buy credits in order to play the games. To me this is the stupidest thing in the world, to spend real money in order to win fake money, but you'd be surprised at the number of people who will spend $20 or $50 ... a day!

I have no idea if this is true, but I would imagine WMS Gaming would get a share of the payments coming in too.

I like the idea of playing a "real" slot game at home without risking anything on it, and when I go to the casinos I will seek out these machines.
FarFromVegas
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August 18th, 2012 at 6:50:48 PM permalink
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I like the idea of playing a "real" slot game at home without risking anything on it, and when I go to the casinos I will seek out these machines.



Yes! I'm an analytical person, so I like to know what I'm getting myself in for before taking a risk, but it still doesn't always stop me from taking the risk. I just like to be prepared for it.
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Mission146
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August 18th, 2012 at 7:22:16 PM permalink
Quote: tsmith

Well, the way it works on Facebook is that the people who put these "real" games out there are hoping that people will get hooked by them (because they are familiar) to the point that they will actually buy credits in order to play the games. To me this is the stupidest thing in the world, to spend real money in order to win fake money, but you'd be surprised at the number of people who will spend $20 or $50 ... a day!

I have no idea if this is true, but I would imagine WMS Gaming would get a share of the payments coming in too.

I like the idea of playing a "real" slot game at home without risking anything on it, and when I go to the casinos I will seek out these machines.



I am certain that they would either get a commission, or some kind of blanket royalty for use of the likeness of the game. My main concern is that you may detract people from actually going to the casinos to play the real games. I'm awfully worried about that. Hopefully they will conduct surveys of people who have already gambled prior to a few of these games being available on-line to see if they average more, less or equal action than they did before these games became available. If it is less, then the plug needs pulled in a real hurry, but I wonder if there is a contract giving FB (and associated acts) the rights for some amount of time...

How about you? Do you gamble more, less or the same than you did before these became available?
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rdw4potus
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August 18th, 2012 at 7:31:07 PM permalink
When I saw this thread, I hadn't ever seen a user-controllable slot like this. Then I was at Harrah's Chester today and I saw a $1 3x1 machine that had a user-selectable "bonus" feature. as a "bonus" blank-blank-blank can pay 2 instead of 0, anybar-anybar-anybar can pay 25 instead of 10, bar-bar-bar can pay 50 instead of 20, 7-7-7 can pay 2,500 instead of 1,000 etc. So the user can determine whether they'd rather have lots of small wins (blank-blank-blank) or fewer huge wins (7-7-7).

I guess I need to pay more attention as I'm walking through the casino on the way to the tables!
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FarFromVegas
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August 18th, 2012 at 7:35:25 PM permalink
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I am certain that they would either get a commission, or some kind of blanket royalty for use of the likeness of the game. My main concern is that you may detract people from actually going to the casinos to play the real games. I'm awfully worried about that. Hopefully they will conduct surveys of people who have already gambled prior to a few of these games being available on-line to see if they average more, less or equal action than they did before these games became available. If it is less, then the plug needs pulled in a real hurry, but I wonder if there is a contract giving FB (and associated acts) the rights for some amount of time...

How about you? Do you gamble more, less or the same than you did before these became available?



While casinos discourage you from filming slot machines, WMS has a collection of those slot bonus films collected on their YouTube channel. They will leave a comment congratulating the poster on their win. I suppose it's free advertising for them, along the lines of; "See? You CAN win big on our games!"

I don't change my gambling budget much, but I do tend to concentrate my slot money on those slots that I've tried first online, or have seen a video of how the bonus works. It gives me a better feel for the machine's volatility. I also play the free table games at Bovada for the same reason. I can bring a realistic bankroll.
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FarFromVegas
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August 18th, 2012 at 7:45:39 PM permalink
Here is the WMS page I mentioned. Video #4 has me considering playing a game with a $4.80 max bet, which I normally wouldn't do with a penny slot.
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