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Quote: GWAE

I I am still up 60bb per hour over 7 hours.

In that case, I'm convinced it's rigged.

Quote: GWAE

I am not one to cry foul

Apparently you are.

Quote: sabre

Apparently you are.

Nope, never said it was rigged. Just thought my results are quite a bit different than live results.

Quote: michael99000

How does the shuffler know I won’t add an extra hand in after the first hand ?

Once again we’re talking about minimum and maximum results and those are easy to produce when you know physically how many hands a player can participate in and you can pre calculate what the player will do and can do. Once I get home I’ll copy and paste the exact description of the “bingo blackjack” class 2 patent descriptions and they describe exactly how the shuffles in pa happen even though I don’t believe the shufflers are putting these shuffles together. It’s literally word for word how I would have described the situations myself

Quote: Rigondeaux

In that case, I'm convinced it's rigged.

That was a good one!!

Quote: heatmap

I am putting the time in. I’m going to hit them from all angles. Brick and mortar and online. I have been planning this ever since I joined here. I have thought and will continue to think that in the state of Pennsylvania they have a very specific algorithm that was developed or is a common algorithm that can use predictions as part of the shuffle. My issue is that I’m doing this all myself because no one actually cares and the people who don’t gamble don’t have this issue because in Pennsylvania the money goes toward education and something’s that are productive.

My issue is that people have no issue saying that within random anything can happen and I feel as long as you can gaurentee that you can generate all possible outcomes I don’t think it matters how you generate the outcomes because you can control and make sure that you make it fair for everyone.

We have to keep the online and Live Casino discussion totally separate.

In my opinion it would be much easier to prove an online casino is rigged reverse is alive game in a casino. The the stats can't lie online. I think there's a greater chance are the RNG being rigged online and it would be easier for them to do that.

The question is... what kind of testing and how many hands would be needed to be confident it's rigged?

Quote: AxelWolf

We have to keep the online and Live Casino discussion totally separate.

In my opinion it would be much easier to prove an online casino is rigged reverse is alive game in a casino. The the stats can't lie online. I think there's a greater chance are the RNG being rigged online and it would be easier for them to do that.

The question is... what kind of testing and how many hands would be needed to be confident it's rigged?

as well as the fact that we are also talking about poker AND blackjack being rigged imo

Quote: AxelWolf

We have to keep the online and Live Casino discussion totally separate.

In my opinion it would be much easier to prove an online casino is rigged reverse is alive game in a casino. The the stats can't lie online. I think there's a greater chance are the RNG being rigged online and it would be easier for them to do that.

The question is... what kind of testing and how many hands would be needed to be confident it's rigged?

Isnt it possible that the rng just sucks in poker for some reason? I wouldn't really say rigged but maybe flawed.

Quote: GWAE

Isnt it possible that the rng just sucks in poker for some reason? I wouldn't really say rigged but maybe flawed.

I think it's more than just a slight possibility, however, if I had to make a bet I would say it meets reasonable standards that would even be approved by Nevada Gaming Control that people in the industry on both sides will you feel comfortable with. If there is a flaw they should be worried since someone will probably figure out a way to exploit it. Carson poker that won't really have an immediate effect on the casino but I can imagine there would be lawsuits and horrible publicity for them. Also, if everyone's getting crushed on the site they'll lose customers rapidly.

There's some really smart people who play poker in blackjack if there's something there I would hope it would have been chili come out.

I've said this before, the reason why I actually found The Wizard of Vegas/odds it was after a short session, on what I believe to be Casino Bar, I was thoroughly convinced it was rigged, so I started doing searches on the net and that's what led me to WOO. Sure enough, The Wizard had information that confirmed I was correct.

I went on about my business and didn't return until I found another gaff and started searching for information about this particular Casino(I was actually able to take advantage of the flaw in my favor). That brought me back to this site and I have been here every since.

P.S. I think a what brought you to The Wizard of Vegas thread would be interesting(perhaps, Nathan started one of those already?)

Quote: AxelWolf

P.S. I think a what brought you to The Wizard of Vegas thread would be interesting(perhaps, Nathan started one of those already?)

Yes I actually think that would be an interesting thread. I was brought here because my parents were giving me "large" amounts of free play and I was concerned that I would get in trouble or get them in trouble.

Did you see my stats of quads and str flushes that I posted? Doesn't that seem way out of the ordinary? I played for 2 hours this morning and had 3 more quads. I have now had more quads in 3 days of pokerstars than I have had in my life playing live poker. Also took a beating today. Had 2nd best hand nearly every big hand there was. Flopped nut flush to lose to FH on river 2 or 3 times. for a 2nd time in 2 days I had nut flush lose to flopped straight flush. Full houses losing to other full houses.