AxelWolf
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November 16th, 2019 at 8:28:45 AM permalink
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I ask if anyone wants to "see" what me and ZK "see" in the blackjack tables at casinos in PA go ahead and play the online blackjack at the casino on pokerstars its atrocious

Are you claiming at the PokerStars blackjack that's used in a regulated Casino here in the United States is rigged? If so, explain.

Would you be willing to put your money where your mouth is in an amount that would make it work someone's time and investment to track it?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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November 16th, 2019 at 10:45:39 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Are you claiming at the PokerStars blackjack that's used in a regulated Casino here in the United States is rigged? If so, explain.

Would you be willing to put your money where your mouth is in an amount that would make it work someone's time and investment to track it?



I am putting the time in. Iím going to hit them from all angles. Brick and mortar and online. I have been planning this ever since I joined here. I have thought and will continue to think that in the state of Pennsylvania they have a very specific algorithm that was developed or is a common algorithm that can use predictions as part of the shuffle. My issue is that Iím doing this all myself because no one actually cares and the people who donít gamble donít have this issue because in Pennsylvania the money goes toward education and somethingís that are productive.

My issue is that people have no issue saying that within random anything can happen and I feel as long as you can gaurentee that you can generate all possible outcomes I donít think it matters how you generate the outcomes because you can control and make sure that you make it fair for everyone.
michael99000
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November 16th, 2019 at 11:13:19 AM permalink
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I am putting the time in. Iím going to hit them from all angles. Brick and mortar and online. I have been planning this ever since I joined here. I have thought and will continue to think that in the state of Pennsylvania they have a very specific algorithm that was developed or is a common algorithm that can use predictions as part of the shuffle. My issue is that Iím doing this all myself because no one actually cares and the people who donít gamble donít have this issue because in Pennsylvania the money goes toward education and somethingís that are productive.

My issue is that people have no issue saying that within random anything can happen and I feel as long as you can gaurentee that you can generate all possible outcomes I donít think it matters how you generate the outcomes because you can control and make sure that you make it fair for everyone.



You still havenít answered my question, as to how the shufflers know when the relief dealer will burn a card. Or what if I just play the first hand of a shoe incorrectly? That would chance the entire shoe from that point on.
ChumpChange
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November 16th, 2019 at 11:51:51 AM permalink
You've got to know what the shuffling machines consider a winning shoe. Deal blackjack to the dealer 5 times off the top of the shoe? Start there.
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November 16th, 2019 at 12:06:11 PM permalink
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I am putting the time in. Iím going to hit them from all angles. Brick and mortar and online. I have been planning this ever since I joined here. I have thought and will continue to think that in the state of Pennsylvania they have a very specific algorithm that was developed or is a common algorithm that can use predictions as part of the shuffle. My issue is that Iím doing this all myself because no one actually cares and the people who donít gamble donít have this issue because in Pennsylvania the money goes toward education and somethingís that are productive.

My issue is that people have no issue saying that within random anything can happen and I feel as long as you can gaurentee that you can generate all possible outcomes I donít think it matters how you generate the outcomes because you can control and make sure that you make it fair for everyone.



Yeah, but the problem is sometimes you don't know whether it's time to order the chicken or the steak. Sometimes you can tell, but other times you have to sort of think it through before knowing what to decide, and even then it's possible that it's not the right time.
michael99000
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November 16th, 2019 at 12:34:24 PM permalink
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You've got to know what the shuffling machines consider a winning shoe. Deal blackjack to the dealer 5 times off the top of the shoe? Start there.



How does the shuffler know I wonít add an extra hand in after the first hand ?
ChumpChange
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November 16th, 2019 at 12:37:29 PM permalink
It's a packed table. Nobody is leaving, nobody is entering mid-shoe. You want to split 10's at the top of every shoe to foil the stacked deck? With the dealer getting blackjack, you won't even get the chance.
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November 16th, 2019 at 12:41:13 PM permalink
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You still havenít answered my question, as to how the shufflers know when the relief dealer will burn a card. Or what if I just play the first hand of a shoe incorrectly? That would chance the entire shoe from that point on.



Im assuming you know what and how a database works so I am sure you will understand this.

Step 1: "Shuffle" or "Randomize" your cards

Step 2: Play through the entire shoe, as many times as needed, by doing every type of action, starting from any card. Computers dont get tired and will do everything you want them to do til the end. You are only limited by space, unless you have money which can buy space (hard drives, memory).

Step 3: Log the statistics into the database.

Step 4: Create a database with the desired shuffles that when combined give you a specific payout percentage over time.

Step 5: Sell those individual shuffles to the casinos.
michael99000
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November 16th, 2019 at 1:03:07 PM permalink
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It's a packed table. Nobody is leaving, nobody is entering mid-shoe. You want to split 10's at the top of every shoe to foil the stacked deck? With the dealer getting blackjack, you won't even get the chance.



How does the rigged shuffler know how many hands Iím going to play on the first hand of the shoe ?
GWAE
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November 16th, 2019 at 2:30:35 PM permalink
I am not sure how many hours of live poker that I have played this year. Maybe 500. In those hours I have had 1 quad and had 2 quads against me. Have also only seen a few others on the table.
On poker stars I have played 7 hours averaging 4 tables at a time so 28 hours on NL HE. I have had 2 quad hands both using 1 card in hand and have had 7 against me with 4 of them being flopped. So in 28 hours I have been involved in 9 hands with quads. Since I am multi tabling I have no idea how many have been on the table. Also in 28 hours I have had 3 strong flushes against me. 2 of them when I had nut flush.

I am not one to cry foul but these results seem odd. I am aware that online gets more hands per hour but these still seem odd.

Even with all those big hands against me I am still up 60bb per hour over 7 hours.
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