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jpprovance
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November 1st, 2010 at 6:07:26 PM permalink
In another thread about poker there are a few people stating they think these shows are fake.

If you think the money is real please put real. For the record. I'm not asking if its their own money. For example they may be playing staked but for real money.

If you vote Fake. You think there is a scenario where there is no real money. Its a Hoax a Scam a Fraud. We are watching no real money being exchanged.

I put Other in there because of some other conspiracy theories.
Paradroid
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November 2nd, 2010 at 1:45:17 AM permalink
As I mentioned in the other thread, there is no reason for players to run pots several times, and for the shows to allow this, unless the stakes truly mattered to the players. Running pots multiple times is bad TV - it's confusing to the common viewer, and a split pot is far less dramatic.
thecesspit
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November 2nd, 2010 at 3:57:00 PM permalink
Voting on this is like voting on how long the king of China's nose is.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
irbylamer
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November 11th, 2010 at 1:11:48 AM permalink
The money is totally real money my friend. If the casinos are authenticated and well reputed the then the money offered by that casino will surely be real, but if the casino is fake and it is just made for the spamming or cheating purpose then just don't go for it. It will only cheat you with money, won't give you any real money.
WizardofEngland
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January 27th, 2011 at 6:46:12 AM permalink
100% real.
The stakes you see on the tourney are nothing to these people. $20,000 buy-in for a tourney is probably even paid for by the sponsor for wearing the shirt/cap.
The reason they run it twice, or even more times is they actually want to split the pot. These guys are paid $1,500 an hour to appear on High stakes poker, so if they can lose less than this, they are in profit. I dare say they might reimburse a good friend for a particularly bad beat behind the scenes, but I think the likelihood of that is slim. These guys know what they are doing. They regularly play on-line for the kinds of stakes you see in the cash game, and they don't get paid $1,500 an hour to do that..
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slyther
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January 27th, 2011 at 11:12:25 AM permalink
Quote: Paradroid

Running pots multiple times is bad TV



Not only that but it has dramatically slowed down our home game at times as some guys insist on running twice now to be cool.
minnesotajoe
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January 27th, 2011 at 11:25:46 AM permalink
Quote: slyther

Not only that but it has dramatically slowed down our home game at times as some guys insist on running twice now to be cool.



As much as I admit there are some people that run it twice "to be cool"... but it is actually good deal on both parts.

If I make a play with a draw, and get called... as an underdog, I would want two shots at hitting. The player that is the favorite, unlikely he or she will lose both lowers risk of getting sucked out.

Lets say there is a fair amount of money in the pot preflop... If I have a draw, and just KNOW a person has a strong hand... but also know that the person will make a deal (run it twice)... then I can make a play at it and try to get lucky.

Other people try being cool and show a card. This is an example from when I used to play poker:

UTG put in a minimal raise. I look at AK suited and three bet it. it folds to him. Then he shoves all-in. Normally, I would just fold here... but I had history with this player. He could show a bluff... anything. He shows me a Q. and I snap called.

Worst case, player has QQ.. in which case it is a flip.
I either have him dominated, or it is a flip.

We ran two boards, and I bricked twice.. loldonkaments
P90
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January 27th, 2011 at 11:36:14 AM permalink
Unfortunately I found (at least one of) these shows too contrived, annoying and just plain boring to even see one episode through.

FWIW, while it's obviously a lot higher stakes than I'm playing, considering the limited timeframe we are talking about that is basically low stakes in the world of serious poker. Games with million bankrolls and tourneys with multi-million prizes, that is high stakes.

Also, FWIW, IMHO running it twice is the second most retarded invention in the world of poker after "bad beat jackpots".
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Lottoballs
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January 27th, 2011 at 9:14:01 PM permalink
I find these games boring, but the poker banter is classic. I'm guessing only here but along with being paid hourly the also may be free rolled or close to it (kick back from sponsors). Why else would these players sit with each other at those stakes? My guess is to show the IRS how much they loose.
mkl654321
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January 27th, 2011 at 9:37:37 PM permalink
Poker After Dark is the most idiotic TV show ever devised by man, and that includes "American Idol" and "Gilligan's Island". The action is contrived--no one really cares what's happening. These "pros" aren't playing poker the way you are I would play it--the money means absolutely nothing to them. You get to see one hand, and then there's a commercial. One more hand, and another commercial. And every time they break away, you have to hear that stupid UHHHHH-UHHHHH-UHHHHHH "music". Yeccccchhh!!!!
The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality.---George Bernard Shaw

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