cclub79
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February 19th, 2015 at 2:34:45 PM permalink
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Cruise ships are unregulated. They can do whatever they want to a degree. I was on a Carnival once with a BJ dealer from LV. He couldn't believe how liberal the rules were for BJ. After a few hours he figured out that they removed all of the Q's from the decks.



This is "Fun 21"; their version of Spanish 21. The fact that they offer that game has nothing to do with their casinos being unregulated. In fact their rules are pretty good. The rules clearly state the Queens are removed, exactly like every land casino that offers Spanish 21. If he was a LV BJ dealer and he didn't realize he was dealing Spanish 21 for several hours, then I guess that's why he had to leave Vegas for a Cruise Ship! Maybe there's a Job for him not noticing the lack of shuffle at Bac in AC! http://bj21.com/boards/free/free_board/index.cgi?noframes;read=155964
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February 19th, 2015 at 3:18:10 PM permalink
I never said the guy was dealing. I said he was a LV dealer. If it was fun 21 neither of us new it and we had been playing for hours. But continue sleuthing and I think you will find that casino's at sea are not regulated by anyone.
cclub79
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February 19th, 2015 at 3:28:00 PM permalink
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I never said the guy was dealing. I said he was a LV dealer. If it was fun 21 neither of us new it and we had been playing for hours. But continue sleuthing and I think you will find that casino's at sea are not regulated by anyone.



Nope, they aren't. But the players are usually less experienced, so they don't have to cheat. For example, people play 21 without realizing it's Spanish for hours!

I cruise often, and play a lot. I'm about even lifetime and have received many free cruises, and many more I couldn't take.
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February 19th, 2015 at 3:28:52 PM permalink
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After a few hours he figured out that they removed all of the Q's from the decks.



Holy carp. That's not even subtle.
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February 19th, 2015 at 4:12:05 PM permalink
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Holy carp. That's not even subtle.



Uh, they TELL you that. This is not an attempt at cheating. This is the same game that's in almost every casino in America!
http://wizardofodds.com/games/spanish-21/
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February 19th, 2015 at 5:41:19 PM permalink
So in Fun 21, they take the queens out instead of the tens, like Spanish 21?
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February 19th, 2015 at 7:19:51 PM permalink
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If it was fun 21 neither of us new it and we had been playing for hours.



Then you guys must have been drinking very heavily. The casino makes no attempt whatsoever to hide the fact that it isn't BJ. Did you not wonder why there were so many bonus payouts?
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February 20th, 2015 at 2:05:38 PM permalink
In fact, in my experience, the dealers are nicer on the cruise ship and MORE willing to help, because 1. It's a much smaller set of people that you are going to see all week. 2. There are a lot of people that would never go into a casino but because they are trapped on a ship they check it out. When I was playing Double Exposure, the dealer made a point to explain the game quickly to every single person who sat down. "Just so you know, this isn't exactly blackjack, it's both of my cards face up and the dealer wins ties, okay?" "Wait, whhhhaa?" "This game is a little different, here are the rules. We have regular blackjack right over there if that's what you are looking for..."

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