Kickass
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January 28th, 2014 at 5:47:25 PM permalink
I have spent 70% of my gambling time in the NL Tx Holdem poker cash game (mainly in 1-3 or 2-5) in the past 3 months instead of playing 100% BJ and I made more money from playing poker than BJ. I know I have been lucky. I have finished reading "Harrington on Cash Games". Do you guys know any good books out there?
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January 28th, 2014 at 5:53:51 PM permalink
Super System 2 is the best cash-game poker book.

I would advise you branch out beyond just NLHE as the biggest edges are in other poker games.
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January 28th, 2014 at 5:56:03 PM permalink
I own Super System 1 and 2 and Mike Caro's Book Of Poker Tells.
I enjoyed and gained much from these books.
I recomend them.

Regarding the Doyle Brunson Super System books they were more technical work.

Regarding the Poker Tells book,I have always been good at reading people coming from the grocery/retail business.
I enjoy people watching and I especially enjoy it if I can win money from it.

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January 28th, 2014 at 6:00:31 PM permalink
I liked "Professional NLHE". By Ed Miller and others.
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January 29th, 2014 at 10:20:43 AM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

I liked "Professional NLHE". By Ed Miller and others.



Ed Miller is must reading.
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January 30th, 2014 at 3:04:49 PM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

I liked "Professional NLHE". By Ed Miller and others.



I Third.
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January 30th, 2014 at 3:17:39 PM permalink
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January 30th, 2014 at 10:08:10 PM permalink
Kickass



there are a lot of books, i have read most of them, the last one is everything poker
from Bill Burton and Frank Scoblete.

I guess we are all looking for the perfect book, but there is none. You may get
some thing that helps from them all. Also if your play seems to need a little
help. different books can help at different times.

dicesetter
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February 16th, 2014 at 7:43:49 AM permalink
As mentioned above the Ed Miller books are a must.

I would add his book playing the player, and how to read hands....both are geared towards low stake live poker



Its also worth considering subscribing to crush live poker (at live at the bike)....its a video series on live poker done by Bart Hanson. He edits the live at the bike games with discussion on how the hands should have been played. You actually see the players play 2-5 5-5. I think it cost like $10 a month (I have not subscribed for over a year so it may have gone up)....but once you subscribe you can down load all the old ones it must be over a 100 now...and then cancel.
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February 18th, 2014 at 5:36:40 PM permalink
Quote: sodawater

Super System 2 is the best cash-game poker book.

I would advise you branch out beyond just NLHE as the biggest edges are in other poker games.



I completely disagree. I find that every random idiot who wants to play "some poker" sits down at 1-2. It takes a higher intelligence level to win at the other games and those are too complicated for the random idiot to play in.
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February 18th, 2014 at 6:07:49 PM permalink
Quote: Lemieux66

I completely disagree. I find that every random idiot who wants to play "some poker" sits down at 1-2. It takes a higher intelligence level to win at the other games and those are too complicated for the random idiot to play in.



there was a time when low limit NLHE was a gold mine. The poker boom, however, is now largely over. A lot of those random idiots either stopped playing or learned enough about the game that they stopped playing so poorly. Also the rake on low limit NLHE games is astronomical compared to the structure of the game. Add a $1 BBJP drop that you almost never see any money back from, and you're paying a lot of money for some small edges.

Meanwhile, if you can find a single moron at a nice PLO game, your edges can be huge.
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February 18th, 2014 at 6:11:31 PM permalink
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February 19th, 2014 at 10:21:00 AM permalink
Quote: sodawater

there was a time when low limit NLHE was a gold mine. The poker boom, however, is now largely over. A lot of those random idiots either stopped playing or learned enough about the game that they stopped playing so poorly. Also the rake on low limit NLHE games is astronomical compared to the structure of the game. Add a $1 BBJP drop that you almost never see any money back from, and you're paying a lot of money for some small edges.

Meanwhile, if you can find a single moron at a nice PLO game, your edges can be huge.



The thing about low limit NL is that you are rarely are going to find the guy who is just GIVING money away. They exist, but most people who play have some degree of a brain. But they still make mistakes. It might be small, but theoretical mistakes. You have to take advantage of them when you can. That's the profit. Plus it obviously takes years of experience and practice to get the "feel".
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February 19th, 2014 at 10:21:46 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

And then add in the obligatory $1 or more tip.



Obligatory you say? Would you tip a 20 dollar heads up pot?
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February 19th, 2014 at 12:26:35 PM permalink
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February 19th, 2014 at 12:33:49 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

I don't tip anymore and I let it be known when I sit down no matter what game it is.



Wait, really? You sit down at a poker table and say, "Hi everyone, just so that everyone knows: I don't tip"
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February 19th, 2014 at 12:35:43 PM permalink
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February 19th, 2014 at 12:39:58 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

I rarely play poker.



So, then, at blackjack, you will sit down and immediately tell the dealer that you don't tip? (or any other game; it doesn't matter).

I have no problem with tipping or not tipping (it's a personal decision) but opening with that line would seem like it would cause immediate animosity. I'm just curious about why you do it.
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February 19th, 2014 at 12:41:51 PM permalink
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February 19th, 2014 at 12:48:31 PM permalink
caro's...."Most Porfitable Hold em advice" is helpfull to me.

Caro actually helped write Brunsons super system.

His tell book is good as well.

For a primer..how to...Super system has already been mentioned.

I still think that its easier to find fish at nlhe......people at the other games seem to know what they are doing.
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February 19th, 2014 at 12:49:30 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Well, no, I don't mention it, but it comes out sooner or later.



Ok, then, I misunderstood what you wrote.
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February 19th, 2014 at 12:53:10 PM permalink
The only pots I don't tip on are:
-Chops unless I profit more than about 10 dollars after rake.
-Ones where I am the only raiser and there are no callers (so all I win are blinds and people who called the blinds). Although I will tip when a profit of about 8 or more.

It depends on the game I'm playing, but I generally tip something like the following:

Pot size Tip
<10 50 cent piece (if those are in play)
10-40 $1
41-70 $2
>71 $3
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February 19th, 2014 at 12:54:22 PM permalink
Wow, that is very generous.
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February 19th, 2014 at 1:25:28 PM permalink
You need to tip some and be a nice guy in general. This is because the dealers and particularly the floor people can just murder you in situations. If there is ever an issue in dispute, and it WILL happen, you don't want those people against you because their word is law. You don't have to tip a lot, but be nice and personable since that's free.
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