March 31st, 2013 at 8:08:30 PM
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Hi all,

I've been keeping detailed statistics on my poker play for the year. I've been playing poker since 1992. 7 Card Stud was the game of choice back then. Then switched to Texas Hold'em when that became the trend. I also sometimes play Omaha Hi/Lo when I get a little tired of Hold'em. I would consider myself pretty good, estimating that I win a few thousand dollars a year every year playing recreational $3-$6 limit, $2-$20 spread, $5-$150 spread and some No Limit.

I believe I am able to influence the flop, turn and river by how I hold the cards in my hand. The reason I believe this is because I seem to win more than most people I know. I will first list my statistics for the year. These are 100% true, as I have an android program that I use to track the type of game, length of play, buy-in, cash-out, etc. After that i will explain my grips and practice methods. Note I had an amazing start to the year, winning each of the first 7 times I played and only lost in 1 of my first 11. Also, my cash out amounts are usually in round numbers because I tip any extra dollars I have as I'm leaving.

2013 Play History

#1 $3/$6 Omaha H/L - 6 hours 40 minutes - In $150 Out $350 (+$200)

#2 $3/$6 Hold'em - 6 hours 15 minutes - In $100 Out $320 (+120)

#3 $2-$20 Hold'em - 7 hours 13 minutes - In $100 Out $145 (+45)

$4 $2-$20 Hold'em - 6 hours 12 minutes - In $100 Out $340 (+$240)

#5 $3/$6 Hold'em - 4 hours 10 minutes - In $100 Out $140 (+$40)

#6 $3/$6 Hold'em - 4 hours 7 minutes - In $100 Out $293 (+$193)

#7 $5-$150 Hold'em - 2 hours 2 minutes - In $133 Out $510 (+$377)

#8 $3/$6 Hold'em - 4 hours 5 minutes - In $100 Out $33 (-$67)

#9 $3/$6 Hold'em - 1 hour 1 minute - In $100 Out $100 (even)

#10 $3/$6 Hold'em - 1 hour 41 minutes - In $100 Out $100 (even)

#11 $5-$150 Hold'em - 0 hours 39 minutes - In $120 Out $234 (+$114)

#12 $2-$20 Hold'em - 2 hours 10 minutes - In $220 Out $136 (-$84)

#13 $2-$20 Hold'em - 2 hours 3 minutes - In $120 Out $54 (-$64)

#14 $3/$6 Hold'em - 1 hour 4 minutes - In $74 out $135 (+$61)

#15 $5-$150 Hold'em - 1 hour 26 minutes - In $310 Out $54 (-256)

#16 $3/$6 Hold'em - 0 hours 26 minutes - In $100 Out $95 (-$5)

#17 $2-$20 Hold'em - 2 hours 10 minutes - In $160 Out $0 (-$160)

#18 $3/$6 Hold'em - 0 hours 58 minutes - In $100 Out $74 (-$26)

#19 $5-$150 Hold'em - 1 hour 39 minutes - In $174 Out $369 (+$195)

#20 $5-$150 Hold'em - 1 hour 53 minutes - In $200 Out $98 (-$102)

#21 $3/$6 Hold'em - 2 hours 14 minutes - In $100 Out $0 (-$100)

#22 $3/$6 Hold'em - 1 hour 53 minutes - In $110 Out $103 (-$7)

#23 $2-$20 Hold'em - 1 hour 15 minutes - In $150 Out $295 (+$145)

#24 $2-$20 Hold'em - 5 hours 45 minutes - In $200 Out $150 (-$50)

#25 $3/$6 Hold'em - 1 hour 30 minutes - In $100 Out $23(-$77)

#26 $2-$20 Hold'em 1 hour 3 minutes - In $123 Out $190 (+$67)

#27 $3/$6 Hold'em - 3 hours 12 minutes - In $100 Out $91 (-$9)

#28 $2-$20 Hold'em - 5 hours 52 minutes - In $120 Out $457 (+$337)

#29 $2-$8 Hold'em - 3 hours 10 minutes - In $200 Out $69 (Yesterday) (-$31)

#30 $5-$150 Hold'em - 0 hours 55 minutes - In $160 Out $500 (Yesterday) (+$340)

So in 30 sessions I won 14, broke exactly even on 2 and lost 14.

I am up $1,484 for the year.

My average win when I win is $177.

My average loss when I lose is $74.

My longest win streak is 7 sessions.

My longest losing streak is 4 session.

So, it seems that I am better than the average player (at least that I play with I guess). So my question is, is it possible my grip is influencing the flops, turn and river to give me an edge (+EV). Right before the flop I grab the cards with my right thumb and index finger as they are face down, overlapping each other by about 90%, in the lower left corner and kind of flick them up. This seems to get me a lot of good flops. Sometimes the cards must slip in just the tiniest way and the flop is no good for me. I can't seem to get every flop. If I have influenced the flop properly and get to the turn, I usually put my right hand on my cards (protecting them) and press firmly across the cards approximately 80% up the cards towards me. If I'm on that day it seems to work pretty good. Then the river. If I am good enough to get there, I usually just lightly hold my cards down with my right hand (protecting them) and cup my crotch under the table with my left hand. I've won a lot of nice pots doing this.

Early in the year I was influencing/controlling the shit out of the cards. But then again, I have practiced a lot. I also practice the river influencing at home a lot. More in the last 2 years since I've been single. Maybe too much.

Does anyone have any other explanation for these good sessions? I'm thinking of writing a book and holding seminars based on my techniques, but I want to continue to track my progress to make sure I am at the top of my influencing game and can sustain it through an entire year.

Thanks for taking the time to read this and for any comments you might have.

ZCore13

I've been keeping detailed statistics on my poker play for the year. I've been playing poker since 1992. 7 Card Stud was the game of choice back then. Then switched to Texas Hold'em when that became the trend. I also sometimes play Omaha Hi/Lo when I get a little tired of Hold'em. I would consider myself pretty good, estimating that I win a few thousand dollars a year every year playing recreational $3-$6 limit, $2-$20 spread, $5-$150 spread and some No Limit.

I believe I am able to influence the flop, turn and river by how I hold the cards in my hand. The reason I believe this is because I seem to win more than most people I know. I will first list my statistics for the year. These are 100% true, as I have an android program that I use to track the type of game, length of play, buy-in, cash-out, etc. After that i will explain my grips and practice methods. Note I had an amazing start to the year, winning each of the first 7 times I played and only lost in 1 of my first 11. Also, my cash out amounts are usually in round numbers because I tip any extra dollars I have as I'm leaving.

2013 Play History

#1 $3/$6 Omaha H/L - 6 hours 40 minutes - In $150 Out $350 (+$200)

#2 $3/$6 Hold'em - 6 hours 15 minutes - In $100 Out $320 (+120)

#3 $2-$20 Hold'em - 7 hours 13 minutes - In $100 Out $145 (+45)

$4 $2-$20 Hold'em - 6 hours 12 minutes - In $100 Out $340 (+$240)

#5 $3/$6 Hold'em - 4 hours 10 minutes - In $100 Out $140 (+$40)

#6 $3/$6 Hold'em - 4 hours 7 minutes - In $100 Out $293 (+$193)

#7 $5-$150 Hold'em - 2 hours 2 minutes - In $133 Out $510 (+$377)

#8 $3/$6 Hold'em - 4 hours 5 minutes - In $100 Out $33 (-$67)

#9 $3/$6 Hold'em - 1 hour 1 minute - In $100 Out $100 (even)

#10 $3/$6 Hold'em - 1 hour 41 minutes - In $100 Out $100 (even)

#11 $5-$150 Hold'em - 0 hours 39 minutes - In $120 Out $234 (+$114)

#12 $2-$20 Hold'em - 2 hours 10 minutes - In $220 Out $136 (-$84)

#13 $2-$20 Hold'em - 2 hours 3 minutes - In $120 Out $54 (-$64)

#14 $3/$6 Hold'em - 1 hour 4 minutes - In $74 out $135 (+$61)

#15 $5-$150 Hold'em - 1 hour 26 minutes - In $310 Out $54 (-256)

#16 $3/$6 Hold'em - 0 hours 26 minutes - In $100 Out $95 (-$5)

#17 $2-$20 Hold'em - 2 hours 10 minutes - In $160 Out $0 (-$160)

#18 $3/$6 Hold'em - 0 hours 58 minutes - In $100 Out $74 (-$26)

#19 $5-$150 Hold'em - 1 hour 39 minutes - In $174 Out $369 (+$195)

#20 $5-$150 Hold'em - 1 hour 53 minutes - In $200 Out $98 (-$102)

#21 $3/$6 Hold'em - 2 hours 14 minutes - In $100 Out $0 (-$100)

#22 $3/$6 Hold'em - 1 hour 53 minutes - In $110 Out $103 (-$7)

#23 $2-$20 Hold'em - 1 hour 15 minutes - In $150 Out $295 (+$145)

#24 $2-$20 Hold'em - 5 hours 45 minutes - In $200 Out $150 (-$50)

#25 $3/$6 Hold'em - 1 hour 30 minutes - In $100 Out $23(-$77)

#26 $2-$20 Hold'em 1 hour 3 minutes - In $123 Out $190 (+$67)

#27 $3/$6 Hold'em - 3 hours 12 minutes - In $100 Out $91 (-$9)

#28 $2-$20 Hold'em - 5 hours 52 minutes - In $120 Out $457 (+$337)

#29 $2-$8 Hold'em - 3 hours 10 minutes - In $200 Out $69 (Yesterday) (-$31)

#30 $5-$150 Hold'em - 0 hours 55 minutes - In $160 Out $500 (Yesterday) (+$340)

So in 30 sessions I won 14, broke exactly even on 2 and lost 14.

I am up $1,484 for the year.

My average win when I win is $177.

My average loss when I lose is $74.

My longest win streak is 7 sessions.

My longest losing streak is 4 session.

So, it seems that I am better than the average player (at least that I play with I guess). So my question is, is it possible my grip is influencing the flops, turn and river to give me an edge (+EV). Right before the flop I grab the cards with my right thumb and index finger as they are face down, overlapping each other by about 90%, in the lower left corner and kind of flick them up. This seems to get me a lot of good flops. Sometimes the cards must slip in just the tiniest way and the flop is no good for me. I can't seem to get every flop. If I have influenced the flop properly and get to the turn, I usually put my right hand on my cards (protecting them) and press firmly across the cards approximately 80% up the cards towards me. If I'm on that day it seems to work pretty good. Then the river. If I am good enough to get there, I usually just lightly hold my cards down with my right hand (protecting them) and cup my crotch under the table with my left hand. I've won a lot of nice pots doing this.

Early in the year I was influencing/controlling the shit out of the cards. But then again, I have practiced a lot. I also practice the river influencing at home a lot. More in the last 2 years since I've been single. Maybe too much.

Does anyone have any other explanation for these good sessions? I'm thinking of writing a book and holding seminars based on my techniques, but I want to continue to track my progress to make sure I am at the top of my influencing game and can sustain it through an entire year.

Thanks for taking the time to read this and for any comments you might have.

ZCore13

I am an employee of a Casino. All the personal opinions I post are my own and do not represent the opinions of the Casino or Tribe that I work for.

March 31st, 2013 at 8:30:45 PM
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Its obvious we are not going to solve this tonite . Ive got to go to bed now, so could everyone just stop posting for tonite so I wont have too much catchin up to do tomorrow. Happy Easter and good nite.

March 31st, 2013 at 9:46:27 PM
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I don't think there's anything to solve. I have the proof. It happened!

ZCore13

ZCore13

I am an employee of a Casino. All the personal opinions I post are my own and do not represent the opinions of the Casino or Tribe that I work for.

March 31st, 2013 at 10:02:47 PM
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I'm sorry but are you saying that by the way you hold the cards in your hand you "influence" what cards will be dealt by the dealer?

If that's what you are saying, the answer is no.

But if you are saying that the way you look at your cards, hold your cards, and how you look and hold your cards affects your body language and that might get others to fold to your bets or fold their cards pre flop, then yes, that is possible.

If that's what you are saying, the answer is no.

But if you are saying that the way you look at your cards, hold your cards, and how you look and hold your cards affects your body language and that might get others to fold to your bets or fold their cards pre flop, then yes, that is possible.

March 31st, 2013 at 10:15:35 PM
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I don't follow the dice setting threads, but I wonder if this is some sort of parody of them. Otherwise it's sort of alarming...

March 31st, 2013 at 10:40:31 PM
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It would be a good idea if you'd wear your official "card holding pin" (CHP) on your shirt so that other "card holders" know to stay back from your table. Since "card holding" is so powerful, it can easily burn down a game if too many of you set at the same table.

March 31st, 2013 at 10:48:22 PM
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nice parody thread

+1

+1

March 31st, 2013 at 11:21:38 PM
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Quote:AlanMendelsonI'm sorry but are you saying that by the way you hold the cards in your hand you "influence" what cards will be dealt by the dealer?

If that's what you are saying, the answer is no.

But if you are saying that the way you look at your cards, hold your cards, and how you look and hold your cards affects your body language and that might get others to fold to your bets or fold their cards pre flop, then yes, that is possible.

Pretty sure this is supposed to be a parody of all the DI talk over the last few days.

(If not, then I think someone doesn't quite understand the nature of causality.)

The trick to poker is learning not to beat yourself up for your mistakes too much, and certainly not too little, but just the right amount.

April 1st, 2013 at 6:51:27 AM
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You really should have waited until today to post this. Good results though!

April 1st, 2013 at 6:54:47 AM
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:) The results are 100% accurate. I just don't see that anyone can disprove I am influencing.

ZCore13

ZCore13

I am an employee of a Casino. All the personal opinions I post are my own and do not represent the opinions of the Casino or Tribe that I work for.