DonPedro
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December 13th, 2012 at 12:34:01 PM permalink
I will be in town all next week and looking for good low limit table, I generally play 4/8 and have only played for a few months but enjoy the game and it keeps me off the BJ table
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December 13th, 2012 at 12:36:40 PM permalink
It is hard to find 4/8 FL on the strip. Venetian and Bellagio will have it and Wynn has it about 8 hours a day. Orleans is probably best place for it since rake is $3 max. There is a decent amount of 2/4 and 3/6 on the strip though. Keep in mind if you play at a Caesars property the max rake is $5 but it is only $4 at all other strip poker rooms.
MrRalph
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December 13th, 2012 at 12:37:48 PM permalink
The Flamingo usually has a 2/4 limit game. The Bellagio and most others have a 1/2 no limit The Monte Carlo has a 2/6 limit.
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December 13th, 2012 at 12:47:43 PM permalink
Excalibur has 2/4 and is probably the softest game in town.
rudeboyoi
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December 13th, 2012 at 12:49:45 PM permalink
yes orleans is prob best choice. low rake and promos usually going. plus theres always a game going there whatever time of day/night. and its close to the strip if thats where youre staying.
mwalz9
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December 13th, 2012 at 12:51:40 PM permalink
I love the Excalibur game. It's a pretty good way to steal money, legally, from idiots late at night.
tringlomane
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December 13th, 2012 at 12:53:37 PM permalink
4/8 limit, I would probably focus on Venetian. If you get a Grazie card, you'll be able to get $2/hr worth of comps there as well.
jml24
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December 13th, 2012 at 12:56:37 PM permalink
Mirage usually has one or two 3/6 tables going. They have decent dealers and plenty of bad players but they do take a $1 jackpot drop.
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December 13th, 2012 at 4:51:15 PM permalink
"Best Low-limit poker room"? Way too vague. What's that even mean?

Most comfortable chairs? Aria.
Lowest rake? Orleans
Best comps? $3/hr at Rio and Station casinos after 3am
Best promos? Mirage
Best tourney structure? Aria probably
Best music played or eye candy? Planet Hollywood
Worst players? Excal, Ballys, Riv, MGM
Quietest room? Caesars, Venetian

All depends on what you're looking for in a room.
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DonPedro
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December 13th, 2012 at 7:32:14 PM permalink
well said ZB!
" If I had the money and the drinking capacity, I'd probably live at a blackjak table and let my life go to hell." Don Pedro
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December 19th, 2012 at 2:52:30 PM permalink
The Orleans always has some sort of promotion and usually has multiple types of games going on. 3/6 Omaha Hi/Lo, 4/8 Omaha Hi/Lo, 2/4 Holdem, 4/8 Holdem and NL Holdem.

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DonPedro
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December 25th, 2012 at 3:16:44 PM permalink
Yes I played this game, fun night !:)
" If I had the money and the drinking capacity, I'd probably live at a blackjak table and let my life go to hell." Don Pedro
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December 25th, 2012 at 3:53:52 PM permalink
Flamingo has 2 guys who spend 60-80 a week in their room and make a decent living off tourists. Talk to one on every visit and he makes it sound so easy, and even he cant understand why other locals leave the room alone. Hope I didnt out him.
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December 25th, 2012 at 4:42:46 PM permalink
I enjoy a low limit spread limit game. There is a $2-6 spread at Sam's Town. I moved here in 2008 and spent most of everyday at Sam's Town poker room. Moed a few miles even further away and I still mostly play there and at the M. Both of these rooms are non smoking and both offer tourneys. Sam's doesn't have any min guarantee, so if there are only 2 tables, well, its a -EV. The M has a $1,000 guarantee everyday and $3,000 on the weekends. Sam's is usually always busy; the M's used to always be busy but for a long time its been busy for the cash tables but jumping for the tourneys.
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December 25th, 2012 at 5:08:21 PM permalink
Quote: Boz

Flamingo has 2 guys who spend 60-80 a week in their room and make a decent living off tourists. Talk to one on every visit and he makes it sound so easy, and even he cant understand why other locals leave the room alone. Hope I didnt out him.



Not enough people play poker here to probably make a difference on "outing him". My guess is that many locals/grinders stay away from CET poker rooms like Flamingo because the rake is $5 max + $1 JP drop. Also the more skillful players will also stay away because it's usually only $1/$2 for NL. But if the players are weak enough, it's worth playing in the higher rake room, imo.
Boney526
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December 25th, 2012 at 8:01:44 PM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

Not enough people play poker here to probably make a difference on "outing him". My guess is that many locals/grinders stay away from CET poker rooms like Flamingo because the rake is $5 max + $1 JP drop. Also the more skillful players will also stay away because it's usually only $1/$2 for NL. But if the players are weak enough, it's worth playing in the higher rake room, imo.



It's usually hard to tell if a game with a high rake is beatable, b/c the rake is obviously eating up a lot of money, but you may not be able to find such weak players at higher stakes....

I mean some of these guys at 1/2 are so bad it's ridiculous. But given just a couple of sharks, and a high rake, it may turn out that your table with horrible players is still -EV. And to be completely honest, there's no real sample you can use to figure it out, b/c the players constantly change, so the best you can do is try to use the best table selection possible. Try to find such weak players that the game is boring, and once they bust out stop playing. At least, that's how I'd approach I really fishy high rake game.
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December 26th, 2012 at 9:32:13 AM permalink
If you are worried about "sharks" or other players, you're probably not good enough to be playing at that betting limit.

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Boney526
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December 26th, 2012 at 12:18:14 PM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

If you are worried about "sharks" or other players, you're probably not good enough to be playing at that betting limit.

ZCore13



With a high rake and multiple winning players at a table, your win rate is either really low or non existent; at least that's what I'd think.
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December 26th, 2012 at 12:26:09 PM permalink
In a high limit game the extra $1 or $2 shouldn't make much of a difference. You figure out who the harks are and who the fish are and you try and isolate the fish in hands and keep the fighting amongst sharks to a minimum. As the old saying goes, if you can't figure out who the sucker is at the table within a few minutes of playing, you're it.
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December 26th, 2012 at 12:26:40 PM permalink
Duplicate post.
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Boney526
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December 26th, 2012 at 1:04:31 PM permalink
I was talking about low limit games, though.

Obviously at high limits the extra 1 or 2 bucks isn't as big of a difference as say, 1/2, 2/4 or 3/6.
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December 26th, 2012 at 2:28:22 PM permalink
Quote: Boney526

With a high rake and multiple winning players at a table, your win rate is either really low or non existent; at least that's what I'd think.



It really depends on the rest of the table. If you're the 3rd best player and the others are donating pretty heavily, you could still win a reasonable amount.

Keep in mind, ZCore, we were discussing $1/$2 NL, so an extra dollar of rake per hand is somewhat significant at that level. It's definitely less of an issue at $2/$5+. I haven't played enough NLHE in Vegas to really know if games at Ballys/Flamingo/PH are so much weaker that it's worth playing over instead of the rest of the rooms in town that are $4 max.
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December 26th, 2012 at 6:38:47 PM permalink
Can anyone rank the casinos by best 1/2NL and 2/4NL?? Zippyboy did a nice break down, but I wanted clarification.

Let's narrow: On the strip, not too rowdy, and relatively comfortable.
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