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January 1st, 2012 at 8:16:55 PM permalink
I noticed what I thought was a new game called Bet the Deck at the Flamingo yesterday. I turns out that I already wrote about an earlier version of the game eight years ago. It seems the owners simplified the game by reducing the number of betting choices, a move I applaud. As I have said to new game inventors hundreds of times, it is hard to overstate the benefit of simplicity when it comes to new casino games.

So, please follow the link for a sneak preview. As always, I welcome comments, corrections, and questions before I announce it to on the Odds site.
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January 1st, 2012 at 8:25:03 PM permalink
Does the player get 3 cards with 1 community card or get 1 card and 3 community cards? You say it both ways.
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January 1st, 2012 at 8:26:04 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Rules

The game is played with a single 52-card deck. Each player will get one card of his own and three community cards.

And then
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All Red/All Black

This is a pair of bets that the player's three cards and the community card will all be red, or all be black. Wins pay 16 to 1.

In the rules stated above, the player only gets one card and there are three community cards but later says something a little different. The result is the same but the wording needs fixed, methinks.
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January 1st, 2012 at 8:49:10 PM permalink
Thanks. There are three community cards and each player gets one card of his own.
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January 1st, 2012 at 8:59:14 PM permalink
This game seems as exciting at baccarat. The Flamingo should bring back 52 Wild.
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January 2nd, 2012 at 5:10:27 AM permalink
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It seems the owners simplified the game



In the article you make it sound like the game you saw 8-9 yrs ago was simpler. So was the game simpler then, but now the betting is simpler?
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January 2nd, 2012 at 5:35:33 AM permalink
The explanation of payouts looks fine, but how the bet is placed is a tad confusing. As a player can you make a bet one one, two, or three of the outcomes or do you place one bet and it is all a payout? I realize a picture mof the layout might be impossible, but how about a sketch of t>?he layout the player sees when they sit down?

Sounds like the layout would have three places similar to LIR?
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January 2nd, 2012 at 10:55:46 AM permalink
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Thanks. There are three community cards and each player gets one card of his own.



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Lo Ball

The player's three cards and the community card must all be 8 or less. Aces count as low. Wins pay 6 to 1.


Still has them backwards.
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January 2nd, 2012 at 11:23:29 AM permalink
Am I missing something or how do you get a full house with 1 player card and 3 community cards? And doubly impossible would be getting 5OAK with 4 cards AND only a 52 card deck?
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January 2nd, 2012 at 11:27:46 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

The explanation of payouts looks fine, but how the bet is placed is a tad confusing. As a player can you make a bet one one, two, or three of the outcomes or do you place one bet and it is all a payout?



It is like roulette, where the bets are independent, and the player can bet on any combination of them he wishes. I added some wording to hopefully make that more clear.
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January 2nd, 2012 at 11:33:48 AM permalink
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Am I missing something or how do you get a full house with 1 player card and 3 community cards? And doubly impossible would be getting 5OAK with 4 cards AND only a 52 card deck?


Yep.
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This bet is based on the poker value of the player's card, the three community card, and an implied joker.

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January 2nd, 2012 at 12:48:17 PM permalink
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Yep.

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Bet the Deck

This bet is based on the poker value of the player's card, the three community card, and an implied joker.



Aha. I was looking at the Original bet card and thought they just went from 5 to 4. Thanks!
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January 2nd, 2012 at 4:12:06 PM permalink
Quote: cclub79

Am I missing something or how do you get a full house with 1 player card and 3 community cards? And doubly impossible would be getting 5OAK with 4 cards AND only a 52 card deck?

There is an implied joker that you get for free. The Wizard mentions it.
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January 2nd, 2012 at 6:28:45 PM permalink
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...As I have said to new game inventors hundreds of times, it is hard to overstate the benefit of simplicity when it comes to new casino games.

Yeah, the Wiz has said that to me about my Poker For Roulette side bet more than a couple times. (Mike, I hear ya!)

On that note, I think the fact that it's obviously easier to get all red or all black than a flush, that because it pays so much more than a flush will be very confusing. For the sake of simplicity, the Red / Black bet should be gotten rid of.

But in the mean time, is that ONE bet for all the same color, or a bet for Red and a separate bet for Black?

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I think it might be worth mentioning that this means the 4 cards can't have a pair or flush. Or that it's allowed if it is.

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I, too, momentarily missed the part about the Joker when looking at the pay table. It took several moments wondering why a pair was a loser. That in itself wasn't so bad, but why was there was no line for "nothing"? Then, it hit me.
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January 2nd, 2012 at 7:51:12 PM permalink
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On that note, I think the fact that it's obviously easier to get all red or all black than a flush, that because it pays so much more than a flush will be very confusing. For the sake of simplicity, the Red / Black bet should be gotten rid of.



Nobody seems confused in Three Card Poker that a straight is higher than a flush.
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July 9th, 2012 at 5:16:55 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Quote: DJTeddyBear

On that note, I think the fact that it's obviously easier to get all red or all black than a flush, that because it pays so much more than a flush will be very confusing. For the sake of simplicity, the Red / Black bet should be gotten rid of.



Nobody seems confused in Three Card Poker that a straight is higher than a flush.



Yes, and in 3CP, a Straight also outpays a Flush.
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July 9th, 2012 at 9:49:06 AM permalink
Quote: NowTheSerpent

Quote: Wizard

Quote: DJTeddyBear

On that note, I think the fact that it's obviously easier to get all red or all black than a flush, that because it pays so much more than a flush will be very confusing. For the sake of simplicity, the Red / Black bet should be gotten rid of.



Nobody seems confused in Three Card Poker that a straight is higher than a flush.



Yes, and in 3CP, a Straight also outpays a Flush.



From the description, the All Red or All Black bets are two separate bets. You have to call the color. The flush wager is a payout from a table of other wagers, and pays on any of the four suits, so it pays less.
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