High Card Flush
Quote: shermanGreat game. I play it a lot at the Casino Lac Leamy in Gatineau, PQ. I've been playing for a few weeks and have gotten 3 six card flushes (no straights).
Oddly enough, they don't seem to allow for 2 flushes to be played. On a number of occasions, I've had a small straight flush (3, 4, 5) as well as a higher regular flush (A, K, 6) which of course was a different suit than the small SF. They told me I had to play one or the other - so in each case, I played the small SF as it was guaranteed a payout.
Does that seem right? Does the casino reserve the right to change the rules? I'm guessing they do. Either that or the dealer or pit boss really didn't know the answer so they might have guessed. I think it might have been the latter because they didn't seem really confident on their answer.
Not allowing a straight flush to be played for that sidebet is a significant deviation from the licensed rules in other places I've played it, and one that affects the HE a lot (to the player's detriment) on both the main and sidebets. The game is licensed for play with the understanding that the HE will be a certain amount with optimal strategy, and optimal strategy dictates that there are hands in which both are played. So, I'm guessing this might be an illegal modification to whatever was approved for play by the regulatory authority there. But I don't know anything about Province Quebec or whoever has oversight of that Casino.
Perhaps PaiGowDan will give us a definitive answer on this; he's the one who answered my (same) questions about it last year when he was involved with distributing the game.
I'm pretty sure it's well over 100 installs. My guess would be close to 200 by the end of the year. That's a winner and the game will definitely be around for a while.
ZCore13
Quote: RoyalBJIs it a Shuffle Master or AGS game?
It's a Galaxy Gaming Game. AGS believes they now have the rights to the game but I'm pretty sure they are going to find out differently in court.
ZCore13
Quote: CharmedQuarkThe HCF game here is licensed by AGS. The pay tables are Flush = 200 - 20 - 10 - 2 and Straight Flush = 500 - 200 - 100 - 50 - 9. Deal is from an automatic shuffler and all seats get dealt a hand. I've played a few times and probably lost more than I've won (dealer seems to get more four and five card flush hands than players). I play $10 flush and $5 straight flush with a $25 ante. I try to gain at least $10 a game when I beat the dealer or no qualify. Most players bet - $5-$10 flush $5-$10 st flush and $5 ante. Like TCP most players usually looking for the bonus money.
AGS may not have the right to distribute the game for long, even if they have it now (which is in doubt). It's going to be interesting (the legal side) to say the least. Nice for the game growth, for now, though, that there are 2 distributors pushing it.
They took a lot off the top/middle of both flush and SF paytables to give you 2:1 on a 4 card flush and 9:1 on a 3 card SF. A lot. But that might drive the action on both.
I like playing 5-10-15 on the SF-F-Ante, FWIW. Those paytables would probably change my bet structure some, though.
Quote: beachbumbabsAGS may not have the right to distribute the game for long, even if they have it now (which is in doubt). It's going to be interesting (the legal side) to say the least.
From Galaxy's Q1 2015 SEC filing:
Quote: GLXZ 10-Q dated March 31, 2015Red Card Gaming & AGS litigation. In September 2012, we executed an asset purchase agreement (“APA”) with Red Card Gaming, Inc. (“RCG”), for the purchase of all the rights, title and interest in and for the game known as High Card Flush and all associated intellectual property. The APA included customary non-compete, non-disparagement and right of first refusal provisions. In 2014, AGS, LLC (“AGS”) purchased RCG’s rights in the APA and became the assignee of the APA. In September 2014 we notified RCG of their material breach of the APA and discontinued contingent consideration payments. In November 2014, RCG and AGS attempted to terminate the APA and in December 2014, filed a complaint against us alleging trademark infringement. We filed a cross-complaint against RCG and AGS alleging conspiracy to breach the APA, misappropriation of our trade secrets, infringement of our trademark and copy rights and interference with customer relationships. As of the date of this Report, there were pending cross motions for preliminary injunctions in which the parties seek to enjoin each other from selling the High Card Flush game. The parties have agreed the substance of the dispute is to be heard in arbitration, which is scheduled for November 2015.
http://ir.galaxygaming.com/
I wish arbitrations were public. I'd fly to Vegas to sit in on that one.
Quote: MathExtremistFrom Galaxy's Q1 2015 SEC filing:
http://ir.galaxygaming.com/
I wish arbitrations were public. I'd fly to Vegas to sit in on that one.
Me, too. I have the feeling the ruling, no matter how it comes out, is going to be critical and precedent-setting for both you and me, not to mention a few dozen other folks on here.
Do you see a published decision coming out of this? Or is it more likely to be held under some kind of confidentiality ruling?
Quote: beachbumbabsMe, too. I have the feeling the ruling, no matter how it comes out, is going to be critical and precedent-setting for both you and me, not to mention a few dozen other folks on here.
Do you see a published decision coming out of this? Or is it more likely to be held under some kind of confidentiality ruling?
Nah, this is a contract dispute, not a patent trial. I don't think any of us will ever know the details; that's part of the point of doing arbitration. I also don't know if there's even a patent on the game method itself -- anyone else know more on that point?
With the ever-present caveat that I am not an attorney: there are a few potential cases working through the system that might set the sort of precedent you're thinking about, but I don't think this one is it.
