Odds Analysis of new Dice Game @ O'Sheas? (3 Dice Football)
March 29th, 2011 at 5:30:12 AM
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O'Sheas has a new dice game called "3 Dice Football":
Given my love of craps, football, and O'Sheas, I can all but guarantee my crew will be playing this in a couple of weeks.
That being said, I wonder if the Wizard (or anyone else) is familiar with this new game, and might have a basic analysis of the odds involved with some of the bets? Thanks in advance to anyone in the know.
Given my love of craps, football, and O'Sheas, I can all but guarantee my crew will be playing this in a couple of weeks.
That being said, I wonder if the Wizard (or anyone else) is familiar with this new game, and might have a basic analysis of the odds involved with some of the bets? Thanks in advance to anyone in the know.
March 29th, 2011 at 7:19:16 AM
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Quote: YallO'Sheas has a new dice game called "3 Dice Football":
http://lasvegasblog.harrahs.com/gaming/3-dice-football-debuts-at-osheas-las-vegas/#utm_source=feed&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=feed
Given my love of craps, football, and O'Sheas, I can all but guarantee my crew will be playing this in a couple of weeks.
That being said, I wonder if the Wizard (or anyone else) is familiar with this new game, and might have a basic analysis of the odds involved with some of the bets? Thanks in advance to anyone in the know.
Here is a detailed analysis by the game makers 3 dice football pdf. And their main page.
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April 1st, 2011 at 4:45:29 AM
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Quote: mipletHere is a detailed analysis by the game makers 3 dice football pdf. And their main page.
Thanks - didn't see that.
Looks like the best bets are the "no gain" and "under 4 yards" single bets, with 2.7778% HE.
April 1st, 2011 at 10:37:56 AM
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I might give this game a shot when I'm there in June
April 1st, 2011 at 11:08:13 AM
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Quote: mipletHere is a detailed analysis by the game makers 3 dice football pdf. And their main page.
Thanks miplet. I would try it. Seems like a lot of work by the dealer's to keep crooks from past posting though.
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April 3rd, 2011 at 10:20:22 PM
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Okay, here is my full analysis of 3 Dice Football.
I welcome all comments and corrections before I make the page live on the Odds site.
I welcome all comments and corrections before I make the page live on the Odds site.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
April 4th, 2011 at 9:51:17 AM
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Quote: WizardOkay, here is my full analysis of 3 Dice Football.
I welcome all comments and corrections before I make the page live on the Odds site.
Note that in "Rules" #3 reads, "If the shooter rolls a red 6, and the sum of the green dice is 1 or 2, then it shall result in a turnover, which is a failed attempt at a touchdown"
Actually, the three green dice totals that result in a turnover are sums of 2 or 3.
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April 4th, 2011 at 9:55:53 AM
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Looks good! I plan to try it.
One possible minor grammatical change: The page says "With most images on this site, click on them for a larger version."
Shouldn't it read: "As with most images on this site, click on them for a larger version."
One possible minor grammatical change: The page says "With most images on this site, click on them for a larger version."
Shouldn't it read: "As with most images on this site, click on them for a larger version."
April 4th, 2011 at 10:01:51 AM
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Quote: AyecarumbaActually, the three green dice totals that result in a turnover are sums of 2 or 3.
Oops. Leave it to me to blow 1+1 and 1+2.
Thanks for all the comments.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
April 10th, 2011 at 7:25:05 AM
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Quote: WizardOops. Leave it to me to blow 1+1 and 1+2.
Thanks for all the comments.
Thank YOU for doing such a quick analysis!
April 10th, 2011 at 8:15:44 AM
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Sunds like an interesting game. I'd certainly try it if I had access to a table.
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October 5th, 2016 at 6:28:53 PM
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The Wizards post about Turbo Football made me think of this and I didn't want to hijack that thread. Anyone know if this game ever gained any traction? It was perfect for the old O'Sheas and any place like it. I thought it was perfect for their customer base at the time.
October 5th, 2016 at 7:15:34 PM
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Quote: BozAnyone know if this game ever gained any traction? It was perfect for the old O'Sheas and any place like it. I thought it was perfect for their customer base at the time.
It is my understanding that Three Dice Football crashed and burned in a blaze of glory.
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October 5th, 2016 at 8:57:01 PM
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So would you say the game had a false start?Quote: WizardIt is my understanding that Three Dice Football crashed and burned in a blaze of glory.
"In my own case, when it seemed to me after a long illness that death was close at hand, I found no little solace in playing constantly at dice."
-- Girolamo Cardano, 1563
October 6th, 2016 at 12:28:38 PM
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Quote: MathExtremistSo would you say the game had a false start?
First time in football where there was a penalty for not "holding"...
Actually, I really enjoyed the game, and even won a bit of money playing it. I think there is room in the market for a three dice game.
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October 6th, 2016 at 12:50:14 PM
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Quote: AyecarumbaQuote: MathExtremistSo would you say the game had a false start?
First time in football where there was a penalty for not "holding"...
Actually, I really enjoyed the game, and even won a bit of money playing it. I think there is room in the market for a three dice game.
It's really the cost to the casino to operate which is the underlying issue, IMO..
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October 6th, 2016 at 2:13:22 PM
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Besides Sic Bo? Or do you mean one where the player throws the dice? Ricochet Dice was on life support forever at the Fiesta Henderson but, to my knowledge, never got much traction elsewhere. And I can't even count how many people have tried to do a casino version of Ceelo. I've personally done math on two different versions, probably five years apart. One guy even claimed to have a patent on it, which is amusing because the name Ceelo itself is an Anglicization of "Si-Wu-Liu" which means "four five six" in Chinese -- and I recall the Chinese version is hundreds of years old.Quote: AyecarumbaQuote: MathExtremistSo would you say the game had a false start?
First time in football where there was a penalty for not "holding"...
Actually, I really enjoyed the game, and even won a bit of money playing it. I think there is room in the market for a three dice game.
Sort of like the guy who -- just ten years ago -- claimed to have a patent on bingo and filed a lawsuit against a Class II vendor. But I digress...
"In my own case, when it seemed to me after a long illness that death was close at hand, I found no little solace in playing constantly at dice."
-- Girolamo Cardano, 1563
October 8th, 2016 at 8:02:44 AM
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Quote: MathExtremistBesides Sic Bo? Or do you mean one where the player throws the dice? Ricochet Dice was on life support forever at the Fiesta Henderson but, to my knowledge, never got much traction elsewhere. And I can't even count how many people have tried to do a casino version of Ceelo. I've personally done math on two different versions, probably five years apart. One guy even claimed to have a patent on it, which is amusing because the name Ceelo itself is an Anglicization of "Si-Wu-Liu" which means "four five six" in Chinese -- and I recall the Chinese version is hundreds of years old.Quote: AyecarumbaQuote: MathExtremistSo would you say the game had a false start?
First time in football where there was a penalty for not "holding"...
Actually, I really enjoyed the game, and even won a bit of money playing it. I think there is room in the market for a three dice game.
Sort of like the guy who -- just ten years ago -- claimed to have a patent on bingo and filed a lawsuit against a Class II vendor. But I digress...
I do mean a game where the player tosses the dice. Ricochet had too many dice, I think 3D Football tried to keep it simple by using two colors of dice, and offering the opportunity to win on each toss (including the darkside).
Ceelo was previously discussed. For a game that so many are familiar with, I am surprised it hasn't found some followers in a casino. Maybe it is a racial/cultural thing.
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