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March 14th, 2025 at 5:27:44 PM
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Are there any betting lines available for who will be the next pope?
I am not Catholic but I always find the process interesting.
I am not Catholic but I always find the process interesting.
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March 14th, 2025 at 6:06:08 PM
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I saw a list on CNN about possible successors, but I don't think there are any betting lines at the moment.
Would this be allowed in Nevada, since the pope is elected, if only by the College of Cardinals, and betting on elections is illegal?
Then again, technically the Oscars are elections of the AMPAS members, and those are allowed.
It wouldn't be of much use to put out lines now, as nobody knows how long Francis will remain pope.
Would this be allowed in Nevada, since the pope is elected, if only by the College of Cardinals, and betting on elections is illegal?
Then again, technically the Oscars are elections of the AMPAS members, and those are allowed.
It wouldn't be of much use to put out lines now, as nobody knows how long Francis will remain pope.
March 14th, 2025 at 7:54:08 PM
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Quote: ThatDonGuyI saw a list on CNN about possible successors, but I don't think there are any betting lines at the moment.
Would this be allowed in Nevada, since the pope is elected, if only by the College of Cardinals, and betting on elections is illegal?
Then again, technically the Oscars are elections of the AMPAS members, and those are allowed.
It wouldn't be of much use to put out lines now, as nobody knows how long Francis will remain pope.
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Being the Pope is legally a head of state it would probably fall under the rules for political elections.
Yes as far as the timing, being a Pope is almost always replaced upon death it would imply an included bet on death of a person. I don't know if that is illegal in Nevada but it sure is in bad taste and bad for business.
March 14th, 2025 at 11:20:10 PM
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Many jurisdictions that control gambling prohibit such bets, if it happens, it will most likely be in an illegal zone
March 15th, 2025 at 9:54:35 PM
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I'll get the ball started. I predict a return to a more conservative Pope. Since that's vague, I think the next one will be from Europe. Who will take the field?
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
March 16th, 2025 at 4:46:45 AM
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The selection of a pope is a decision made by a small group of senior officials, it is not a public election. It is akin to senior sports writers picking the National League MVP - the sports writers vote for the MVP in an election, just as cardinals vote for a pope. And sports books do permit the public to wager on who will be MVP.
Electing a pope is similar to the editors of Time Magazine electing a Man of the Year.
Regarding the successor to the current pope: Americans don't know any of the candidates. And, frankly, it makes no difference in our lives.
Electing a pope is similar to the editors of Time Magazine electing a Man of the Year.
Regarding the successor to the current pope: Americans don't know any of the candidates. And, frankly, it makes no difference in our lives.
So many better men, a few of them friends, are dead. And a thousand thousand slimy things live on, and so do I.
March 16th, 2025 at 6:03:07 AM
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Quote: WizardI'll get the ball started. I predict a return to a more conservative Pope. Since that's vague, I think the next one will be from Europe. Who will take the field?
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I think I agree with you. How about an over/under on the age of the next pope? I would assume the number would be around 71.
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March 16th, 2025 at 8:16:16 AM
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Quote: WizardI'll get the ball started. I predict a return to a more conservative Pope. Since that's vague, I think the next one will be from Europe. Who will take the field?
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Do you mean the next Pope will be born in Europe or will he be a European Cardinal? The movie The Conclave has the Church electing the Cardinal of Afganistan as Pope, although he was Mexican by birth.
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March 16th, 2025 at 11:12:52 AM
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Quote: WizardI'll get the ball started. I predict a return to a more conservative Pope. Since that's vague, I think the next one will be from Europe. Who will take the field?
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I predict the next Pope will be a man, old, and gay. It's likely 80% or more of priests worldwide are gay. A book written by an insider at the Vatican claims that at least 80% of the priests in the Vatican who work with the Pope are gay.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
March 16th, 2025 at 12:44:45 PM
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Quote: DRichI think I agree with you. How about an over/under on the age of the next pope? I would assume the number would be around 71.
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That's a pretty good line, but I would take the under for a small fun bet if you're interested.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
March 16th, 2025 at 12:45:28 PM
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Quote: billryanDo you mean the next Pope will be born in Europe or will he be a European Cardinal? The movie The Conclave has the Church electing the Cardinal of Afganistan as Pope, although he was Mexican by birth.
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I mean where he served as a Cardinal.
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March 16th, 2025 at 1:04:08 PM
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Quote: WizardQuote: billryanDo you mean the next Pope will be born in Europe or will he be a European Cardinal? The movie The Conclave has the Church electing the Cardinal of Afganistan as Pope, although he was Mexican by birth.
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I mean where he served as a Cardinal.
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There are many European born Cardinals who work in the Vatican but are titular Cardinals of some obscure location.
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March 16th, 2025 at 2:07:14 PM
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Quote: WizardI'll get the ball started. I predict a return to a more conservative Pope. Since that's vague, I think the next one will be from Europe. Who will take the field?
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I follow the workings of the Vatican somewhat and subscribe to a newsletter of news of interest to Catholics. The misinformation here is...interesting. That being said:
Of the current 252 Cardinals, Francis has appointed 149 of them with JP2 and Benedict having appointed the rest. Of the 137 Cardinals eligible to vote (age less than 80), Francis has appointed 109 as of this writing. So he appointed almost 80 % of the voting bloc. So it stands to reason that the next conclave would reflect his approach the Papacy and teachings as opposed to more conservative teachings such as from Benedict.
As for nationality Italy has 17 Cardinal electors followed by the US at 10. Brazil has 7 and everywhere else is also in single digits.
As for continental demographic, Europe has 54 Cardinal electors, followed by Asia with 24 then N America with 20, Africa and S America with 18 and Oceania with 4.
All that being said and defining nationality as which passport the cardinal holds (which is how the Vatican does it) I would bet the next Pope would be from Europe or South America, be between 70-75 years old and be a bit more conservative than Francis but not nearly as much as Benedict or JP2. I will also state that there hasn't been an Italian Pope since 1978 (not including Francis, who was born in Argentina of Italian immigrants) and they are chomping at the bit big time to reclaim the office.
Determining which Cardinal is papabile is an age-old parlor game!
March 16th, 2025 at 2:11:55 PM
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Quote: WizardQuote: DRichI think I agree with you. How about an over/under on the age of the next pope? I would assume the number would be around 71.
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That's a pretty good line, but I would take the under for a small fun bet if you're interested.
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Thanks, but I really don't have enough confidence to make a bet and I also hope they choose someone younger like Cardinal Sergio da Rocha of Brazil who is 65.
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March 16th, 2025 at 2:12:14 PM
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I'd like to see a Chinese Pope or possibly a Russian. I'll settle for a Filipino.
It's time to emphasize Catholic and not Roman.
It's time to emphasize Catholic and not Roman.
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March 16th, 2025 at 2:17:40 PM
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Quote: billryanI'd like to see a Chinese Pope or possibly a Russian. I'll settle for a Filipino.
It's time to emphasize Catholic and not Roman.
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Perhaps, but aren't things like Urbi et Orbi primarily in Italian?
March 16th, 2025 at 2:47:14 PM
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Quote: billryanQuote: WizardQuote: billryanDo you mean the next Pope will be born in Europe or will he be a European Cardinal? The movie The Conclave has the Church electing the Cardinal of Afganistan as Pope, although he was Mexican by birth.
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I mean where he served as a Cardinal.
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There are many European born Cardinals who work in the Vatican but are titular Cardinals of some obscure location.
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They're all bishops. Bishop is the last of the three Catholic ordinations. The Pope is the Bishop of Rome, and a cardinal is a bishop who has been granted the privilege of coming to the Vatican, advising the Pope and selecting the next Pope.
Another "privilege" of a cardinal is he gets a historic church in Italy, in the regions previously known as the Papal States, where he can live. But he is also responsible for maintaining that church with funds raised from his own home diocese where he is still, of course, the bishop. So the ones from rich places (i.e., the Americans) get the churches that are in dire need of expensive repair. What a dirty trick!
As far as the Pope, I think the Church might be getting away from a focus on Europe and replacing it with Latin America, where people really still are Catholic. So I would think there is a good chance the next Pope will also be from that region.
March 16th, 2025 at 3:01:42 PM
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Quote: billryanI'd like to see a Chinese Pope or possibly a Russian. I'll settle for a Filipino.
It's time to emphasize Catholic and not Roman.
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The Church in China is mostly controlled by the CCP and there are no Vatican appointed Chinese Cardinals, so there will never be a Chinese citizen as Cardinal. The Church in Russia is a minority church, somewhat repressed by the government's favor the Russia Orthodox Church. There are only 500,000 Catholics in Russia and no Cardinals. There will never be a Russian Pope.
One of the current frontrunners is a Filipino, FYI.Works for me!
But, I hear you on the Catholic part. That's why the current Pope is Argentinian.
March 16th, 2025 at 3:15:49 PM
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Quote: ThatDonGuyQuote: billryanI'd like to see a Chinese Pope or possibly a Russian. I'll settle for a Filipino.
It's time to emphasize Catholic and not Roman.
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Perhaps, but aren't things like Urbi et Orbi primarily in Italian?
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Public addresses are usually in Italian. Official Vatican documents are usually in Latin, especially decisions of Vatican courts or tribunals. Privately the Pope uses whatever language he wishes. JP2 spoke Polish in the Papal Household. His private secretary was a Polish bishop and there were 5 Polish nuns to meet his daily needs.
March 16th, 2025 at 4:26:42 PM
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Quote: ThatDonGuyQuote: billryanI'd like to see a Chinese Pope or possibly a Russian. I'll settle for a Filipino.
It's time to emphasize Catholic and not Roman.
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Perhaps, but aren't things like Urbi et Orbi primarily in Italian?
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The Church clergy used to united in that they all spoke Latin. Urbi et Orbi is Latin, not Italian. As it is given in Rome, which is in Italy, most of it might be given in Italian as most of the audience will be Italian.
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March 16th, 2025 at 4:40:31 PM
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Quote: GenoDRPhQuote: billryanI'd like to see a Chinese Pope or possibly a Russian. I'll settle for a Filipino.
It's time to emphasize Catholic and not Roman.
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The Church in China is mostly controlled by the CCP and there are no Vatican appointed Chinese Cardinals, so there will never be a Chinese citizen as Cardinal. The Church in Russia is a minority church, somewhat repressed by the government's favor the Russia Orthodox Church. There are only 500,000 Catholics in Russia and no Cardinals. There will never be a Russian Pope.
One of the current frontrunners is a Filipino, FYI.Works for me!
But, I hear you on the Catholic part. That's why the current Pope is Argentinian.
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There are no publicly appointed Chinese Cardinals, but that is political, not religious. There is no condition that a man must be a Cardinal to be elected Pope. There is an 800-year-old tradition of electing a Cardinals but any Catholic Man who is eligible for Priesthood can be elected.
Before Communism, there were less than five million Christians in China. Now it is said to be between sixty and eighty million. An Asian Pope might double that.
As a Catholic School boy, I was taught there will be no peace until Russia is consecrated in Mary's name. Given that clue, I'm hoping for a Russian Pope.
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March 16th, 2025 at 4:59:31 PM
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Quote: billryanQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: billryanI'd like to see a Chinese Pope or possibly a Russian. I'll settle for a Filipino.
It's time to emphasize Catholic and not Roman.
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The Church in China is mostly controlled by the CCP and there are no Vatican appointed Chinese Cardinals, so there will never be a Chinese citizen as Cardinal. The Church in Russia is a minority church, somewhat repressed by the government's favor the Russia Orthodox Church. There are only 500,000 Catholics in Russia and no Cardinals. There will never be a Russian Pope.
One of the current frontrunners is a Filipino, FYI.Works for me!
But, I hear you on the Catholic part. That's why the current Pope is Argentinian.
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There are no publicly appointed Chinese Cardinals, but that is political, not religious. There is no condition that a man must be a Cardinal to be elected Pope. There is an 800-year-old tradition of electing a Cardinals but any Catholic Man who is eligible for Priesthood can be elected.
Before Communism, there were less than five million Christians in China. Now it is said to be between sixty and eighty million. An Asian Pope might double that.
As a Catholic School boy, I was taught there will be no peace until Russia is consecrated in Mary's name. Given that clue, I'm hoping for a Russian Pope.
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I will bet my entire net worth it will never happen in my lifetime. An American will be Pope before a Russian or a Chinese.
March 16th, 2025 at 6:12:24 PM
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Odds of the new pope being black are pretty much zero. There's only been one black Cardinal in the history of the Catholic Church and he was just appointed in 2020. There might have been three black popes in the early early days of the church but nobody knows for sure if they were black or not so who knows. By early I'm talking about 300AD. New Popes are always elected from the College of Cardinals since the 1300s.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
March 16th, 2025 at 8:02:12 PM
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How about a Chinese American or a Russian American?
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March 16th, 2025 at 8:06:59 PM
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EB doesn't know the difference between an African-American cardinal and an African one. Several dozen black Cardinals are eligible to vote in the next conclave. For the most part, they represent the Catholic Churches of Africa.
Africa's population was around 250 million in the 1950s. It's projected to hit 2.5 billion in twenty-five years. That is a whole lot of souls to save and churches to build.
Pope Gelaicios(sp?) was almost certainly born in Africa, but his ethnicity is debated. His father was a Roman citizen, but his mother wasn't.
Africa's population was around 250 million in the 1950s. It's projected to hit 2.5 billion in twenty-five years. That is a whole lot of souls to save and churches to build.
Pope Gelaicios(sp?) was almost certainly born in Africa, but his ethnicity is debated. His father was a Roman citizen, but his mother wasn't.
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March 17th, 2025 at 12:11:01 AM
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Quote: billryanHow about a Chinese American or a Russian American?
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A Russian-Anything who is Catholic is probably a member of the Byzantine Rite church and not a Roman Catholic. He'd be eligible, but that would be rather awkward having a non-Roman Catholic as Bishop of Rome, and would be making a statement the cardinals surely do not want to make.
A Chinese Pope I would welcome also. Just because the churches would switch to pai gow and baccarat instead of bingo. And perhaps if I play enough, instead of comps they will recognize me as their primate.
March 17th, 2025 at 4:04:39 PM
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Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: billryanHow about a Chinese American or a Russian American?
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A Russian-Anything who is Catholic is probably a member of the Byzantine Rite church and not a Roman Catholic. He'd be eligible, but that would be rather awkward having a non-Roman Catholic as Bishop of Rome, and would be making a statement the cardinals surely do not want to make.
A Chinese Pope I would welcome also. Just because the churches would switch to pai gow and baccarat instead of bingo. And perhaps if I play enough, instead of comps they will recognize me as their primate.
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Primate Monkey!
March 17th, 2025 at 5:00:10 PM
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An Irish Pope would be nice.
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March 17th, 2025 at 5:05:01 PM
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Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: billryanHow about a Chinese American or a Russian American?
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A Russian-Anything who is Catholic is probably a member of the Byzantine Rite church and not a Roman Catholic. He'd be eligible, but that would be rather awkward having a non-Roman Catholic as Bishop of Rome, and would be making a statement the cardinals surely do not want to make.
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Unless they want to make such a statement. Our Third World Pope has appointed a large portion of the electorate, and I imagine most of them are far more liberal than the men they replaced. The longer he lives, the more the conservative factor ages out.
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March 17th, 2025 at 6:23:02 PM
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Quote: billryanQuote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: billryanHow about a Chinese American or a Russian American?
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A Russian-Anything who is Catholic is probably a member of the Byzantine Rite church and not a Roman Catholic. He'd be eligible, but that would be rather awkward having a non-Roman Catholic as Bishop of Rome, and would be making a statement the cardinals surely do not want to make.
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Unless they want to make such a statement. Our Third World Pope has appointed a large portion of the electorate, and I imagine most of them are far more liberal than the men they replaced. The longer he lives, the more the conservative factor ages out.
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The statement I'm referring to is the rite itself. I don't think they want to deprecate the Roman Rite in deference to the Byzantine Rite in Rome. That's what they would be doing. A Russian bishop might have never used any Latin rites.
The form of the rite might go over the heads of most laymen but it's a big deal to religion geeks, as it's really all that distinguishes many churches and thus the ecclesiastical authority that descends from them.
March 19th, 2025 at 7:59:00 AM
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The next Pope will not be Russian (i.e. hold a Russian passport).
The next Pope will not be Chinese (i.e. hold a Chinese passport).
The next Pope has slightly better chance, but not by much, of being an American (i.e. hold a US passport).
The next Pope will be selected from the ranks of Cardinals, and will not be a bishop, priest or layman.
The next Pope will be a member of the Latin Church, and not any of the other Catholic Churches.
When it comes time to bet, that's how I would do it.
The next Pope will not be Chinese (i.e. hold a Chinese passport).
The next Pope has slightly better chance, but not by much, of being an American (i.e. hold a US passport).
The next Pope will be selected from the ranks of Cardinals, and will not be a bishop, priest or layman.
The next Pope will be a member of the Latin Church, and not any of the other Catholic Churches.
When it comes time to bet, that's how I would do it.
March 19th, 2025 at 8:48:52 PM
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Quote: GenoDRPhThe next Pope will not be Russian (i.e. hold a Russian passport).
The next Pope will not be Chinese (i.e. hold a Chinese passport).
The next Pope has slightly better chance, but not by much, of being an American (i.e. hold a US passport).
The next Pope will be selected from the ranks of Cardinals, and will not be a bishop, priest or layman.
The next Pope will be a member of the Latin Church, and not any of the other Catholic Churches.
When it comes time to bet, that's how I would do it.
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I think there is a low chance of the next Pope being American. I'll offer you 2 to 1 odds he is.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
March 20th, 2025 at 5:07:18 PM
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Why do Pope's love math?
Because thetr are so many Cox Zuckering problems to solve.
Because thetr are so many Cox Zuckering problems to solve.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
March 20th, 2025 at 5:07:20 PM
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Why do Pope's love math?
Because thetr are so many Cox Zuckering problems to solve.
Nonsense joke by: Axel Wolf.
Because thetr are so many Cox Zuckering problems to solve.
Nonsense joke by: Axel Wolf.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
March 20th, 2025 at 6:25:42 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfWhy do Pope's love math?
Because thetr are so many Cox Zuckering problems to solve.
Nonsense joke by: Axel Wolf.
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Speaking as a former Jesuit schoolboy, I can attest that Catholics have a sense of humor. Most of the priests are historically either Irish or Italian, think somebody there might be into humor?
But you have to try harder. You're not going to get a Catholic to laugh at a lousy Catholic joke. That's like getting a Jew to eat a bad bagel. Or a Mormon to drink beer. (Beer is too hard to hide, they drink the strong stuff.)
Do you know the Pope's phone number?
8-cum-spirit-2-2-0
March 21st, 2025 at 1:46:49 AM
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Quote: AxelWolfWhy do Pope's love math?
Because thetr are so many Cox Zuckering problems to solve.
Nonsense joke by: Axel Wolf.
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Why am I not terribly surprised that's the best ole' Ax is capable of...
March 22nd, 2025 at 11:22:05 AM
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Pope to leave hospital Sunday. "The news of my death has been greatly exaggerated." <--- not actual quote.
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March 22nd, 2025 at 6:07:35 PM
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Quote: rxwinePope to leave hospital Sunday. "The news of my death has been greatly exaggerated." <--- not actual quote.
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Of course not, that was Mark Twain's comment after the Press thought had died in London for an illness. He even got to read his own obituaries, how often do you get to do that.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
March 23rd, 2025 at 10:12:28 AM
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I predict that the next bishop of Rome will not be a former pope of Las Vegas.
May the cards fall in your favor.
March 23rd, 2025 at 6:41:04 PM
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Quote: DieterI predict that the next bishop of Rome will not be a former pope of Las Vegas.
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So no chance for Father Mike to get that long awaited promotion?
March 23rd, 2025 at 8:40:24 PM
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Quote: GenoDRPhQuote: DieterI predict that the next bishop of Rome will not be a former pope of Las Vegas.
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So no chance for Father Mike to get that long awaited promotion?
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Pretty sure it's been a minute since there was a married Pope...
May the cards fall in your favor.
March 24th, 2025 at 6:36:33 AM
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Quote: DieterQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: DieterI predict that the next bishop of Rome will not be a former pope of Las Vegas.
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So no chance for Father Mike to get that long awaited promotion?
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Pretty sure it's been a minute since there was a married Pope...
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I believe at least one was married and had kids.
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March 24th, 2025 at 7:15:27 AM
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Quote: DRichQuote: DieterQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: DieterI predict that the next bishop of Rome will not be a former pope of Las Vegas.
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So no chance for Father Mike to get that long awaited promotion?
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Pretty sure it's been a minute since there was a married Pope...
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I believe at least one was married and had kids.
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Many popes have had children; there are even a few cases where there may well have been father/son Popes in the pre-modern era.
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March 24th, 2025 at 11:17:10 AM
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Quote: DieterQuote: GenoDRPhQuote: DieterI predict that the next bishop of Rome will not be a former pope of Las Vegas.
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So no chance for Father Mike to get that long awaited promotion?
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Pretty sure it's been a minute since there was a married Pope...
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1287 was the last time and he was married and widowed before he was Pope. Priests were allowed to get married and have children up until the 11th or 12th century. The problem was a lot of them acquired a lot of wealth before they died mostly in properties that they owned and they would leave those properties to their wives and children instead of the church in their will. The church could not tolerate this so they banned marriage so anything a priest acquired went automatically to the church when he died. Always follow the money especially in religion.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
April 5th, 2025 at 4:38:45 AM
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Quote: WizardQuote: GenoDRPhThe next Pope will not be Russian (i.e. hold a Russian passport).
The next Pope will not be Chinese (i.e. hold a Chinese passport).
The next Pope has slightly better chance, but not by much, of being an American (i.e. hold a US passport).
The next Pope will be selected from the ranks of Cardinals, and will not be a bishop, priest or layman.
The next Pope will be a member of the Latin Church, and not any of the other Catholic Churches.
When it comes time to bet, that's how I would do it.
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I think there is a low chance of the next Pope being American. I'll offer you 2 to 1 odds he is.
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There was a point in time where I would bet a poker player would draw a five of a kind with no wild cards or a craps player would roll a Hard Thirteen before there would be an American Pope. But the last consistory Cardinal O'Malley of Boston was papabile (he's now retired and 80 years old), and now an American, Cardinal Prevost is the frontrunner according to some Vatican observers. So now I am not so sure. How long is your offer good for?
April 21st, 2025 at 10:08:19 AM
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Pope Francis passed away this morning at the age of 88.
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