Multi-table
can anyone confirm or deny this?
Quote: heatmapI dont know why that i cant find it now, but at one point i thought i had read about an oddity - where multi tabling or playing two tables (not at once) but going back and fourth - will increase your chances at winning...
can anyone confirm or deny this?
Are you talking about a negative expectation (-EV) game? I can't see where jumping between tables would have any effect on a -EV play.
Now with blackjack and card counting, counting a second table simultaneously to playing the table you are at, WITH conditions right that you can immediately jump to that second table when it is a better opportunity can increase your win expectation pretty significantly.
I first disclosed that I use this technique on another forum several years ago, and there has been a lot of discussion about it, including discussion that recently spilled over here, because certain people don't believe anyone can do this, despite that fact that numerous, known successful players have disclosed that they use this technique, some for many years.
Quote: kewljnumerous, known successful players have disclosed that they use this technique, some for many years.
You once claimed Schlesinger disclosed that, and you posted a link, but it didn't pan out as he didn't write what you attributed to him.
Can you post any links to where any known successful players disclosed that they used this technique?
Don't try to claim knowledge of what I believe or don't believe, just back up your own claims and the discussion can remain civil.
Quote: kewljAre you talking about a negative expectation (-EV) game?
i think so... roulette
Quote: coachbellyYou once claimed that Schlesinger disclosed that, and you posted a link, but it didn't pan out as he didn't write what you attributed to him.
Can you post any links to where any known successful players disclosed that they used this technique?
Don't try to claim knowledge of what I believe or don't believe, just back up your own claims and the discussion an remain civil.
Who didn't know you would climb out from under your rock and be the first to respond. I am not playing your troll games any longer coach belly.
I have recently spoken with Mr. Schlesinger and confirmed exactly what he meant. Have you? It is only YOU that thinks he meant something other than what he did.
Feel free to believe whatever you like coach belly. Be careful not to sail of the edge of the earth.
Quote: heatmapi think so... roulette
Can't see how it could make a difference....LONG TERM, but am certainly open to hearing more about it. :/
Quote: kewljCan't see how it could make a difference....LONG TERM, but am certainly open to hearing more about it. :/
what i saw and am referring to - at least i think if i didnt just make some stuff up in my own mind - was a chart that compared playing one table to playing two - back and fourth
and my speculation -if what we are talking about has nothing to do with why they dont allow it
is that the roulette tables have their own chip types and they dont want a chip thats the same color to be transferred to another table where the chip may be worth more
but i never use the table chips i use real chips usually - i havent played roulette in years though
Quote: kewljWho didn't know you would climb out from under your rock and be the first to respond. I have recently spoken with Mr. Schlesinger and confirmed exactly what he meant.
He didn't write that he counted a second table while playing another in the link you provided.
If that's what he meant, then he certainly could have written that, since he was asked directly about it in the thread.
But he didn't.
So where did the other known successful players confirm your claim?
And what do you mean that I climbed out from under my rock?
What are you talking about?
Quote: heatmapi think so... roulette
I have a relative who thought this was a winning approach. He would run between two roulette wheels placing bets based on some elaborate system. He, and very emphatically his wife, no longer believe this to be a winning proposition.
On a separate note, your comment reminded me of this: https://youtu.be/PpvboBJEozM
Quote: TinManI have a relative who thought this was a winning approach. He would run between two roulette wheels placing bets based on some elaborate system. He, and very emphatically his wife, no longer believe this to be a winning proposition.
On a separate note, your comment reminded me of this: https://youtu.be/PpvboBJEozM
Yes this is the answer to my question. I think
Quote: heatmapand kewlj - i think there is something to this because CASINOS HATE THAT ONE TRICK and definitely dont allow it at roulette tables
and my speculation -if what we are talking about has nothing to do with why they dont allow it
is that the roulette tables have their own chip types and they dont want a chip thats the same color to be transferred to another table where the chip may be worth more
but i never use the table chips i use real chips usually - i havent played roulette in years though
It’s not only that; they also don’t want more than one player using a particular color chip at the table. That’s one of (a few) reasons why they have different color chips.
All players have access to the betting area, so with all players using different color chips, everyone knows what bets belong to who.
Quote: billryanSo if you buy in at one table for $100, the chips are worth $1 each and if you buy in at a second table for $500, the chips are worth $5 each. What would prevent you from using the $1 pink chips at the table where your pink chips are worth $5? Obviously the casino would catch on pretty quick but a hit and run strategy might work, although I'm sure this isn't an original thought.
Just so nobody gets any ideas, I do want to quickly point out that this would be a straight up crime if they could demonstrate intent to defraud.
Quote: Mission146Just so nobody gets any ideas, I do want to quickly point out that this would be a straight up crime if they could demonstrate intent to defraud.
This was my speculation as to why they wouldn’t allow this with table bought chips
Quote: Mission146Just so nobody gets any ideas, I do want to quickly point out that this would be a straight up crime if they could demonstrate intent to defraud.
I'm not advocating doing this, just pointing out why someone might be playing two tables. Casinos must see these attempts at petty theft on a regular basis.
You're going to need to convert those chips to the real ones before you leave, so they'll get wise to the scam when they end up with more of their unique color chips at the table, meaning that someone has added to the inventory. "Hello? Surveillance? We have a problem. Call Warner Wolfe."
