RealizeGaming
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August 12th, 2020 at 10:30:02 AM permalink
We are close to finishing our second keno game called Slide Keno. If you are somewhat familiar with our Slide Poker game you will probably notice the similarities. Basically, a special ball can appear in the draw of 20 balls which provides a bonus. The bonus consists of a particular ball hit "sliding" right, left, up or down a number of positions, each time marking those positions as hits. In addition to the sliding effect, random multipliers are awarded along with the bonus.

Feel free to give it a try and let me know what you think.

Demo: http://realizegamingllc.com/dev/slideKenoV1/

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August 12th, 2020 at 10:40:02 AM permalink
One thing that I notice is that if you hit a number with a regular ball, and then the bonus ball 'slide' covers the same number, it is counted twice. Not sure if this is by design, but you could have a situation where you get more hits than the numbers picked.
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August 12th, 2020 at 11:12:58 AM permalink
I like this one.

Usually I'll just let the computer pick random numbers for me. Here, I find myself making a sort of fat + pattern in the middle of the board in the hopes of catching a slide.

I doubt doing this affects the math at all, but I did get my two biggest hits on your keno games during my first test session.
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August 12th, 2020 at 1:10:57 PM permalink
Quote: Gialmere

I like this one.

Usually I'll just let the computer pick random numbers for me. Here, I find myself making a sort of fat + pattern in the middle of the board in the hopes of catching a slide.

I doubt doing this affects the math at all, but I did get my two biggest hits on your keno games during my first test session.



Actually, I conjecture that the way that the pattern with which you pick the numbers does matter.

Say you will pick 10 numbers. Pick all 10 numbers in a row and hope for a right or left arrow in that row. You are much better off letting a +7 slide arrow occasionally giving you 7 extra numbers than having it give you one extra number 7 times more often.

Edit: Yep. After about 15 trials I made 10 (out of 10 picks) with a payoff of 1000, using the strategy I just posted. Getting 10/10 is usually very improbable.
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August 12th, 2020 at 1:41:45 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

Actually, I conjecture that the way that the pattern with which you pick the numbers does matter.

Say you will pick 10 numbers. Pick all 10 numbers in a row and hope for a right or left arrow in that row. You are much better off letting a +7 slide arrow occasionally giving you 7 extra numbers than having it give you one extra number 7 times more often.

Edit: Yep. After about 15 trials I made 10 (out of 10 picks) with a payoff of 1000, using the strategy I just posted. Getting 10/10 is usually very improbable.

I did this too, except that I hit 12 out of 10 picks (two numbers were counted twice) and got paid $0!
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August 12th, 2020 at 1:44:08 PM permalink
That's interesting. The only fix I can think of is to make the computer do all the picking. But how do you tell keno players that they can't pick their own numbers?
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August 12th, 2020 at 1:45:21 PM permalink
Quote: Gialmere

That's interesting. The only fix I can think of is to make the computer do all the picking. But how do you tell keno players that they can't pick their own numbers?



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August 12th, 2020 at 1:51:04 PM permalink
One of the things we are discussing to fix this problem is to play with the award bonuses. If the bonuses are more focused on the 2, 3, 4 extra balls and a much lower percentage chance of getting 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 balls should help.
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August 12th, 2020 at 5:40:15 PM permalink
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I think we broke the game.

I had a very quick go picking 8 in a row; and got several 7 out of 8's within the first few minutes. On one I got three naturally and the other four from the slide with no double counting.
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August 12th, 2020 at 7:18:23 PM permalink
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One of the things we are discussing to fix this problem is to play with the award bonuses. If the bonuses are more focused on the 2, 3, 4 extra balls and a much lower percentage chance of getting 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 balls should help.



I am generally a fan of your games, but if you try to address this problem with the payouts and probabilities then you are left with a Keno game where the player's EV depends on the spatial pattern of picks that they use. For players who don't realize this, they will be at a disadvantage.

Maybe you can scheme your way out of this - but . . .
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