offtheteam
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August 29th, 2012 at 1:55:01 PM permalink
Hello....my first post here....thank you Wizard for this and the Odds website...I have learned so much about gambling from them, I can't even tell you. Now to convince my Father on the foolishness of slot machines LOL


My question...I know I've heard of(and seen), electronic versions of card and casino type games, like Blackjack and Roulette, being available at casinos in Vegas and elsewhere...my question is what OTHER games are available via a machine that might have lower bet limits, like a buck or even a quarter. Are there any casinos in Vegas or anywhere that offer Video Baccarat, Video Let It Ride, or Video Craps even?

Anyone with knowledge yay or nay is appreciated...be well, friends.

Mike in Buffalo


ps....I've seen Video Blackjack and Roulette up in a slot parlor in Ontario, but I am not certain it's "true"....I think it's more like a VLT.
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August 29th, 2012 at 2:20:01 PM permalink
Quote: offtheteam

My question...I know I've heard of(and seen), electronic versions of card and casino type games, like Blackjack and Roulette, being available at casinos in Vegas and elsewhere...my question is what OTHER games are available via a machine that might have lower bet limits, like a buck or even a quarter. Are there any casinos in Vegas or anywhere that offer Video Baccarat, Video Let It Ride, or Video Craps even?


If "anywhere" includes Australia, I've seen Video Sic Bo. (Then again, those same casinos don't have Video Poker.)

I would expect to see more Video Roulette and Video Craps in California, considering that the "real thing" is illegal there. (Some casinos do have versions where they do have dice/a wheel, but they use playing cards to determine the actual numbers, but it's just not the same.)
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August 29th, 2012 at 2:41:34 PM permalink
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August 29th, 2012 at 3:08:31 PM permalink
There are also games, in Vegas and elsewhere, that use an actual covered Roulette wheel, and giant dice in a pop-o-matic type set-up, where there is no dealer. No dealer generally means they can afford to have lower minimums, as well as paying exact payouts without rounding (or at least rounded to a penny).
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August 30th, 2012 at 8:57:46 AM permalink
Thanks! Good info....I am mostly interested in Video Baccarat, and whether it's available at a lower limit.
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August 30th, 2012 at 9:37:02 AM permalink
Pechanga had a video Baccarat a couple years ago, but I don't think it is still there. Video Roulette is a staple of socal casinos, but I have seen video craps only once in CA, at Fantasy Springs.
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August 30th, 2012 at 9:50:44 AM permalink
I worked on a video Caribbean Stud machine in the mid 1990's that had a wide are progressive jackpot. That game flopped.
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August 30th, 2012 at 9:59:22 AM permalink
Quote: offtheteam

Thanks! Good info....I am mostly interested in Video Baccarat, and whether it's available at a lower limit.

Video Baccarat? It's probably out there somewhere.

I HAVE seen a mechanical multi-player Baccarat machine using real cards with no dealer. I don't remember where. It might have been at G2E.
I invented a few casino games. Info: http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/ ————————————————————————————————————— Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
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August 30th, 2012 at 10:04:19 AM permalink
In LV there are video versions of:

Craps - $1-$2 min usually
Blackjack - Two different versions with a $1-$5 min depending on where it is.
Let it Ride - Only at LVH I think now as a multi player machine with $5 min. Old Gamemakers still have $.25 min at Fremont, Palace Station, and NYNY. Palace Station also has nickel LIR on Game Makers.
Three Card Poker - LVH has it with $3 min.
Ultimate Texas Holdem - $1 min ante and blind - I think Vegas Club is last install in LV. There is also one in Indian Springs.
Roulette - Just about anywhere, seen it as low as nickel - some 1 player machines are even single zero

I have not seen video baccarat in LV. It seems that the video Pai Gow and Mississippi Stud machines are a thing of the past too. If anyone knows where a video Pai Gow game is now I would love to know.
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August 30th, 2012 at 10:05:10 AM permalink
Quote: offtheteam

Hello....my first post here....thank you Wizard for this and the Odds website...I have learned so much about gambling from them, I can't even tell you.

Mike in Buffalo



Welcome to the forum. Another Buffalo guy here. PM if you ever want to meet up at Seneca Niagara, or the Canadian side.
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August 30th, 2012 at 10:19:14 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Video Baccarat? It's probably out there somewhere.

I HAVE seen a mechanical multi-player Baccarat machine using real cards with no dealer. I don't remember where. It might have been at G2E.



I remember this as well from G2E last year I believe......this was the one with a conveyer belt type mechansim that slid the cards along to a station with an arm that flipped them up to reveal them. Had card recognition tech in it so it knew when to deal third card to either hand. The mechanics of the physical card deal were very interesting, wonder if it got any installs.

Seems like a mechanical machine like this would be more "trusted" than a video version with an RNG.
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August 30th, 2012 at 10:57:42 AM permalink
Yeah, that was the contraption. It was very cool, but it's probably a bear to fix. Hope they designed it so it doesn't break down often.


Now that I think about it, the shuffler / flipper portion was somewhat seperated from the players. After the cards were revealed, they would be put into the discards when the next card is revealed. I.E. It didn't line them up as "hands", only one card face was seen at any one time.

Players could watch the mechanical flipper if they chose, but they used video consoles which handled the game's "look". As such, this system could be used for any card game.

Basically, it was the same game software, with the RNG replaced by this mechanical gizmo and card recognition.
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August 30th, 2012 at 11:06:51 PM permalink
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Resorts World NYC is where I have seen this system.
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August 30th, 2012 at 11:26:13 PM permalink
Quote: bigfoot66

Pechanga had a video Baccarat a couple years ago, but I don't think it is still there. Video Roulette is a staple of socal casinos, but I have seen video craps only once in CA, at Fantasy Springs.

FS got rid of Vegas Star Craps (ShuffleMaster) and has the Organic Craps version. Uses 3 dice. Probably the only way it is allowed in CA. stupid ass law

The Video Baccarat is still at Pechanga (well 6 months ago, I do not like that casino)
It is Vegas Star Baccarat by ShuffleMaster
http://www.shufflemaster.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&layout=item&id=1225&Itemid=1032

It is a no commission version (The Vegas Star line I think came from Australia)
A Banker win of 6 pays 1:2
It also has the Dragon Bonus. (My wife and I played it for a few hours, it was OK)
offtheteam
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August 31st, 2012 at 2:28:13 PM permalink
Hey how ya doin'....I'm up at Seneca about once a month to donate to the 1/2 NLHE games and then to take it out on the buffet LOL...though recently I've been studying up a bit on Blackjack and Baccarat....I mean there isn't much to know about Bacc....banker all the time...but with Blackjack...I kinda was hoping to find lower limit games to test out my abilities...

The Senecas don't spread $5 anymore really, and if they do...it's like at 10AM when I'm working. I don't know about Canada.

I hear tell that the Racino in Erie has $5 blackjack all the time...

Anyway...I'll lurking...thank you all for the info....be well.
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