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August 31st, 2016 at 6:19:17 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

That's just an absurd statement.

There can be good value online. I would bet the percentage of people not paid online is low compared to the people who have successfully been paid without issue. Obviously I think anyone not getting paid is complete BS.

Affiliates should demand a zero tolerance policy and black list an online casino until that casino makes things right.

Affiliates shouldn't continue to promote repeat offenders.

I don't understand how any affiliate can justify promoting a casino that continues to have major issues. It would be like recommending a restaurant that keeps giving people food poisoning and or horrible food.

Affiliates shouldn't promote online casinos who have ambiguous/ unfair T&C's or at least they should point out the fact that they have sketchy unfair T&C's.

Regarding the OP, we don't know all the details yet, sometimes people don't read all the terms and conditions. IE. They used a bonus on ineligible table games. (He could of had a bonus and didn't know it). Perhaps he used a VPN. Maybe his information didn't match up on his fax back form. I don't know and im.not saying he didn't do everything right.

I absolutely don't agree with all the BS terms and conditions many online casinos have.

As far as BV goes....
I have Never been stiffed by BV. IMO they have been the best online casino.

They have had very few problems in all the years.

I have had more problems getting paid from just one B&M LV casino alone

.Just a few examples of things that have happened at B&M casino's multiple times.....

I have been denied cashing out large tickets because I didn't use my player's card. I have been denied payments on completed promotions after the fact. They have retroactively changed promotions knowing I was about to complete them or I already did. I have been cheated in drawings.

I have been playing BV since it was Bodogs, possibly over 10 years with +EV.(I stoped playing for about 3 years in the middle and haven't played much since they completely changed the bonus structure) .

I have cashed out at least 50 times at BV. One time it took 6 weeks to get paid because of the payment processing problem due to the online calino banking crackdown.
Been paid as fast as 5 days by check. Normally it only took 1 to 2 weeks.

I know many others who have never had a problem.


I don't suggest cashing out more than $2500 at one time.

IMO.

1) Put LESS online than you feel comfortable with losing.

2) Don't keep running your balance up to an amount that would be a heartbreak if you didn't get paied.

3) Don't assume it's random, assume it's not. Assume 9/6 JOB is really equivalent to 8/5 JOB.

4) Assume the Table games you are playing are 1%-3% worst than it should be.

5) Don't bet big online (unless its part of a +EV bonus strategy).

6) Don't treat all online casino's equal some are much much worst than others.

7) Your betting system doesn't work anyways, but it will probably lose much faster and even more online.

8) Lots of people win have fun and get paied online without a problem. It's better than playing live keno, the lottery and scratchers and various horibal stuff. (See Illinois lottery scandal)

9) You absolutely CAN make money AP'ing online.

10) Play with online casinos that have a good reputation.



Great advice, Axel. Thanks for taking the time.

P.S. Can you edit "paied" out of your spellchecker? Lol....
It's "paid". You got it right at least twice above, but it also went thru wrong at least twice. Cracked me up.
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August 31st, 2016 at 7:06:48 AM permalink
I would add to Axel's excellent advice by adding you also have to consider that many Online casinos pay out in checks written on foreign banks. You may incur additional fees from your bank and have to endure a waiting period for the money. Not a deal breaker but you do have to account for these fees when making calculations on a play. The more times you cash out smaller amounts, the more fees. Most banks have the detaIls in their fee structure listings.
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August 31st, 2016 at 8:32:28 AM permalink
Quote: Boz

I would add to Axel's excellent advice by adding you also have to consider that many Online casinos pay out in checks written on foreign banks. You may incur additional fees from your bank and have to endure a waiting period for the money. Not a deal breaker but you do have to account for these fees when making calculations on a play. The more times you cash out smaller amounts, the more fees. Most banks have the detaIls in their fee structure listings.

It seems that after 3 check deposits into your bank they would send your check to collections (whatever that is or means) to verify something that usually took 2 weeks + but then after that it's usually free sailing.

If you had a check cashing history at walmart and kept the checks in the $900 range they would oftentimes cash them. Sometimes the checks couldn't be electronically read due to them being foreign so it was hit or miss.

Places like Moneygram would usually reject them because phone verification from the bank was difficult.
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August 31st, 2016 at 9:34:30 AM permalink
I know in the past, with Bovada, your check cashing processing times was dependent on where the check came from, which inevitably was dependent on the routing number. For a couple years, all their checks either came from Singapore or a Canadian bank. Singapore had a 9 digit routing number and thus was processed immediately. The Canadian checks didn't, and as a result those went through the "collection" process and could take up to 6 weeks to process. But they always processed.
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August 31st, 2016 at 12:01:35 PM permalink
I sense something is off with joeschlobotnick I just can't put my finger on it- some of the posts border on trolling fm and some are insightful
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August 31st, 2016 at 1:11:33 PM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

I sense something is off with joeschlobotnick I just can't put my finger on it- some of the posts border on trolling fm and some are insightful



...and how is this kind of post not you trolling? Just curious, since you make so many like it (not just about joe).
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August 31st, 2016 at 1:15:49 PM permalink
I'm usually pretty spot on in the end
Plus I said. Not all. some are insightful
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August 31st, 2016 at 1:23:25 PM permalink
Just a pet peeve But I hate reading posts that say " I ALWAYS GOT PAID " Like that will make the guy who is getting screwed feel better. I mean they don't cheat everybody, Well, not usually. Yet to see one add anything to the funds for all the inconvenience either.
More like, looks like we better pay this guy after all.

No Axle, this post not about you.
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August 31st, 2016 at 1:44:57 PM permalink
I was speaking to Josh, the site owner, last week about the general procedure to file a complaint with an advertiser. I'm told the suggested way to do that is to file a complaint in the forum at sister site Latest Casino Bonuses. They have a lot of representatives that monitor complaints about advertisers and do their best to mediate.

You are also welcome to post here, but you'll get more traction and better service over at LCB.
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September 1st, 2016 at 5:48:54 AM permalink
I was trying to add a picture of the latest update but it proved to be above my tech level. Now when I log in it says,

RE: Thank you for your recent withdrawal request dated Fri, Aug 5th for the amount of US$4,000. At your request your withdrawal has been canceled. If you require any further assistance or have any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us. Sincerely, Bovada.LV Withdraws Team.

I called them and they still will not get me an update or any information at all. I didn't cancel the withdrawal, I think it timed out by default maybe? I appreciate the feedback from everyone. I am glad to see that you really don't hear or see people that actually get cheated by them. I can understand a slow payout and them wanting to make sure everything legit. I just wish they would give me some type of information about the process.

I can not access my account, i just get the message above when i log in.

Thanks for everything!

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