Caesars Online is using NetTeller

I live in New Jersey.
A few months ago, I signed up for the WSOP online poker room. I gotta assume this email is related.



I blocked out my account number in the top right, but you can see that it does have my name - despite the error involving first names at the beginning of the letter.


But the thing that got me curious is this: Isn't there Black Friday problems related to Neteller?

When last I checked Americans couldn't have Neteller accounts. Maybe that has changed. I'd very much like to have one again.

https://help.neteller.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/6/session/L3RpbWUvMTM5NDA2MzIwOC9zaWQvUmY0clV2T2w%3D

Serviced and restricted countries
Published 24/10/2007 12.41 PM | Updated 05/03/2014 03.55 PM

Where does NETELLER provide service?

SERVICED COUNTRIES

NETELLER provides service to the following countries/regions. If you live in any of these countries, you are able to hold a NETELLER account, transact with any merchants, and have access to deposit and withdrawal options.
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Albania Ecuador Liechtenstein Saint Lucia
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Lebanon

If you have a paypal account, they accept your paypal visa debit card also.

Quote: michael99000

If you have a paypal account, they accept your paypal visa debit card also.

I assume you're talking about Caesars.

My point is not so much that Caesars is using Neteller but that Neteller is being used at all.

(As well as pointing out their dopey programming error.)

I'll venture some rough details on the history.

UIGEA passed in October 2006, and many online gambling sites immediately closed to US customers.

Neteller closed to US customers around January 2007, amid criminal allegations by the US government.

US customers were not paid their balances until the end of July 2007, so the wait was about 6 months.

Black Friday occurred in April 2011, when PokerStars, Full Tilt and Cereus (all online poker sites) were targeted by the US government.

Neteller, which is publicly traded, is probably considered "legitimate" now, but I was unaware of any current involvement with the USA.

Quote: DJTeddyBear

I assume you're talking about Caesars.

My point is not so much that Caesars is using Neteller but that Neteller is being used at all.

(As well as pointing out their dopey programming error.)

Caesars and Borgata both accept PayPal for their online gaming.

And I also was not aware that Neteller was open to US customers. I guess they got all that legal trouble behind them

Quote: michael99000

Caesars and Borgata both accept PayPal for their online gaming.

And I also was not aware that Neteller was open to US customers. I guess they got all that legal trouble behind them

Paypal? Have you used it? This does not sound right. Neither mentions Paypal on their site either:

http://casino.theborgata.com/banking/how-to-deposit/deposit-methods.html

https://www.caesarscasino.com/en/get-started

Quote: Pokeraddict

Paypal? Have you used it? This does not sound right. Neither mentions Paypal on their site either:

http://casino.theborgata.com/banking/how-to-deposit/deposit-methods.html

https://www.caesarscasino.com/en/get-started

PayPal offers a debit card (visa), which the sites do accept. The money comes right out of your paypal account balance, so in essence it's the same as funding your acct via PayPal

And yes I've used it on Borgatas online poker site .

Quote: michael99000

PayPal offers a debit card (visa), which the sites do accept. The money comes right out of your paypal account balance, so in essence it's the same as funding your acct via PayPal

And yes I've used it on Borgatas online poker site .

That is not the same as Paypal being accepted. You are using a prepaid Visa debit card to deposit.

Quote: Pokeraddict

That is not the same as Paypal being accepted. You are using a prepaid Visa debit card to deposit.

I'm not prepaying anything. I'm sending money that's sitting in my PayPal account directly to the poker site.

Quote: michael99000

I'm not prepaying anything. I'm sending money that's sitting in my PayPal account directly to the poker site.

You are not using your Paypal account to fund anything in New Jersey. You are using a Visa card that is using your Paypal balance (or credit perhaps) as collateral. Those are two completely different things. It may not seem like it from a player POV but they are.