Playing Blackjack as a dealer vs many recs. Can i get an edge?

There is a poker website in my country, the largest one that use IDN play network.
They have a blackjack games but they dont be as the dealer. so its basically player vs player

rules:
I dont know how many decks are used (5 player i assume its about 6-8 deck)
split aces + resplit
double down any card
deal more card after split aces
stand on soft 17
early surrender vs dealer any card
Bj pays 3:2
bet spread 2-20 units

house edge:
we get charged 3% each winning hand. so the house edge is 1.5%

I just want to know, am i getting edge if i be the dealer?
there is so many recs player (very low stakes) that are not understand the basic strat
I have see they hit 18 v dealer 9
i also often see they stand 12 vs dealer 10

Am i getting edge to cover the house commission (3% per winning)?
I have try 3 night running as a dealer

1st night 1 account 2000units became 3800 units
2nd night 2 account @2000 units became 4600 units and 3600 units
3rd night 2 account @2000 units account A: 1000 units(cameback to 1500 units afternoon) and account B: 2600 units (loss all the 2600 units afternoon)

so i just stop the game because i dont have so much money reserve to handle the variance, yet i still dont know if its a positive expectation game.



** update
i just see one player splitting 55 vs dealer's 9
i check using cdca tools, its a -52.5% EV for splitting VS +14.8% for doubling

I think you would have to target dealing to bad players.

I take it this is electronic BJ that uses an RNG. Is there any indication when it shuffles up?

Can the players chat with each other during play? If so, perhaps you could run off the good players and encourage the bad players.

I cannot target bad player because i can only sit to an empty room (the dealer seat unseated) and wait for other players join my room for playong
i think it will shuffle every hand. there is no clear rules for it
all players can chat, i can also chat to others.

Can you, as the dealer, quit playing at any time?

A six-deck version of the game has an estimated 0.34% to 0.46% player edge^^^ for the basic strategy player***.

^^^: Player edge does not include the commission (3% of any win, right?)

***: 0.46% x the "initial bet turnover" is the most you can expect to lose in the long-term as the "dealer" against a "basic strategy player" (not including the commission).

Sorry I can't be any more help, as I don't know what the "average" player at that web-site does differently and how often, compared to a basic strategy player.

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Update (about 455 am):

Below is the reduction in "player edge" when he stands on a "2 card hard 12 (2+10)" against a dealer 10.

If the player stands on 12 (2+10) vs Dealer 10 then he is -0.151869 x initial bet worse off (when compared to basic strategy player)

chance of a player 2+10 vs Dealer 10 is about: 1.455%

overall reduction in player edge (or increase in house edge) is: about 0.22...%

Also, below is a link that may help you estimate what the number of decks are.

https://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/appendix/13/

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Update 2 (about 515 am):

Last Sunday, i was playing blackjack and noticed that a player refused to double or split (even on "offensive splits"),

When a player never doubles or splits, but otherwise follows "correct basic strategy", then the house edge is about 1.7% before the "website's commission".

Quote: Gialmere

Can you, as the dealer, quit playing at any time?

absolutely yes. i even can win after a winning hand. i just stand up, the game is over

Quote: ksdjdj

A six-deck version of the game has an estimated 0.34% to 0.46% player edge^^^ for the basic strategy player***.

^^^: Player edge does not include the commission (3% of any win, right?)

***: 0.46% x the "initial bet turnover" is the most you can expect to lose in the long-term as the "dealer" against a "basic strategy player" (not including the commission).

Sorry I can't be any more help, as I don't know what the "average" player at that web-site does differently and how often, compared to a basic strategy player.

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Update (about 455 am):

Below is the reduction in "player edge" when he stands on a "2 card hard 12 (2+10)" against a dealer 10.

If the player stands on 12 (2+10) vs Dealer 10 then he is -0.151869 x initial bet worse off (when compared to basic strategy player)

chance of a player 2+10 vs Dealer 10 is about: 1.455%

overall reduction in player edge (or increase in house edge) is: about 0.22...%

Also, below is a link that may help you estimate what the number of decks are.

https://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/appendix/13/

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Update 2 (about 515 am):

Last Sunday, i was playing blackjack and noticed that a player refused to double or split (even on "offensive splits"),

When a player never doubles or splits, but otherwise follows "correct basic strategy", then the house edge is about 1.7% before the "website's commission".

i see so often 12 or 13 vs dealer's 10 stand
so its not only the player's 12, but there will be another hand that they would make mistake.
i think the most hard part is to split or not split. if they dont make optimal move, so i will gain big advantage.

i am not trying to be dealer anymore because i dont know how much it will be needed for handle the variance swings

Quote: rajarolet

Its seem like under the right circumstances you can gain an advantage.

Does this site offer other incentives to players such as new player deposit bonuses, cash back for points? What about a refer a friend bonus or an affiliate program? If so, and you had 2 new players, both with bonuses and somome making money for referring the 2 players, there might be an opportunity where you could lock up a guaranteed profit. Have one new player as the dealer and one as the player while both are using bonuses. Meanwhile, the 3rd person is getting kickbacks for referring them. That's what I would be looking into first.

The article below may give you an Idea of how well players play on "average" (about 10 years old from WoO website).

https://wizardofodds.com/image/ask-the-wizard/how-poor-are-bj-players.pdf

edit: there is information that is over 30 years old in this article, so it may not be as good as I first thought (though I have only "skimmed" the article so far).

Quote: AxelWolf

Its seem like under the right circumstances you can gain an advantage.

Does this site offer other incentives to players such as new player deposit bonuses, cash back for points? What about a refer a friend bonus or an affiliate program? If so, and you had 2 new players, both with bonuses and somome making money for referring the 2 players, there might be an opportunity where you could lock up a guaranteed profit. Have one new player as the dealer and one as the player while both are using bonuses. Meanwhile, the 3rd person is getting kickbacks for referring them. That's what I would be looking into first.

i dont think they are giving any deposit bonuses, only referal bonus (10% from the referral's rake contribution)

I also think i have an edge, but right now, i have a very limited bankroll for testing.

Quote: rajarolet

i dont think they are giving any deposit bonuses, only referal bonus (10% from the referral's rake contribution)

I also think i have an edge, but right now, i have a very limited bankroll for testing.

Does this site allow US players?

unfortunately no. because the deposit option is only by my local bank. Its a local casino