Quick question about ADT
Quote: WizardofnothingIt doesn't make a difference ..... If you play four hours at 100 or 16 hours at 25 , it's the same exact adt
I understand that portion of it WoN, but I keep reading about people advising you to play a minimum of 4 hours a day.
This is a quote from BBB.
This is the question that I wanted to ask. If I only had about 2 hours to play, would it be equivalent ADT if I play $200/hand for 2 hours as opposed to $100/hand for 4 hours?
If I play longer as WoN had said, then it is a mute point because I would have played longer than 4 hours.
Quote: whodatTables, they care a lot about time on games. My impression is you want to average 4hrs/day min.
This is a quote from BBB.
This is the question that I wanted to ask. If I only had about 2 hours to play, would it be equivalent ADT if I play $200/hand for 2 hours as opposed to $100/hand for 4 hours?
If I play longer as WoN had said, then it is a mute point because I would have played longer than 4 hours.
Your questions have been answered above.
What are you unclear on?
Quote: Wizardofnothing200 at 2 hours us same as 4 hours st 100 yes
Yup just like you stated above in the other example. However, the only difference is the 4 hours player will be comped better
Quote: WizardofnothingComped better??? Possibly if going through a host but mail should be almost the same
I would think most would visit the host desk (if they dont have a host) prior to check out to see what they could get comped.
Quote: WizardofnothingThat four hours comes from most places say 4 hours is what they want per day for a room comp based on whatever there average bet norm is for rooms- adt is really something totally different and the time play is completely subjective from the host - those are just the basics - who dat- you have my number call me if you need a better explanation
Thanks. That last statement of room comp clarified it.
Take player A that plays one day a week and has an ADT of $3000
and
Take player B that plays three days a week with an ADT of $2000.
Clearly player B is more valuable to the casino than player A, however if there is a busy day and minimum requirement for a room will be put at ADT $2500, then player A will be given a room and player B not.
The important thing I can strongly suggest, is to never play the typical "I had just 5 minutes left" on the last day of departure, as these will lower your ADT dramatically.
Quote: acwThe whole ADT thing is considered kind of holy in the casino world. Unbelievable.
Take player A that plays one day a week and has an ADT of $3000
and
Take player B that plays three days a week with an ADT of $2000.
Clearly player B is more valuable to the casino than player A, however if there is a busy day and minimum requirement for a room will be put at ADT $2500, then player A will be given a room and player B not.
The important thing I can strongly suggest, is to never play the typical "I had just 5 minutes left" on the last day of departure, as these will lower your ADT dramatically.
Your example is not good. Player 2 is more valuable. You should have said adt of 3k vs adt of 1k after 3 days
With some chains yes you are 100 percent right but at other chains it has absolutely zero effect
I never thought it would, but now think so of Penn National gaming. You're right, some, not all.Quote: WizardofnothingThat's not always true
With some chains yes you are 100 percent right but at other chains it has absolutely zero effect
Quote: WizardofnothingThat's not always true
With some chains yes you are 100 percent right but at other chains it has absolutely zero effect
With CZR it can have benefits in places you have never been as a first visit baseline, at least for free rooms. But after a visit there, you are rated based on that play and hurting your ADT in another city will not affect that one. At least in my experience. You have been all over, have you had the same experiences?
Example:
Customer has never been to Lake Tahoe but has a good AC ADT. Customers gets a free room no problem. Plays at LT and starts keeping offers there based on visit.
Customers destroys AC ADT but customer will still get offers from LT based on that visit. AC play did not affect LT.
Quote: WizardofnothingMore to story? What were you playing now- game ? Average bet? Room type you were getting comped?
Sorry I missed this post - I played a lot of different stuff but I was out there on a room comp during the week for one of their slot tournaments, it was not a weekend or anything.
I played a combination of video poker 5 play dime quick quads and some dollar VP, pie gow at $25 to $50, some $15 free bet blackjack and Crazy 4 poker.
I guess they didn't like the fact that I played some of that quick quads instead of all single line dollars. But the funny thing was all they would tell me was I hadn't played enough time to qualify for another free room and that's when they told me I played 11 hours and 45 minutes and had I played 12 hours I would've been OK. It just seemed weird. It really doesn't bother me that much though because I don't need to be playing there to try to keep comps. I get fair treatment at TI and I can pretty much always get something free or very close to it from the Caesars family even if it's only Harrahs
Let’s assume you are in a city with many different casinos next to each other. You decide to visit two different premises during a two day stay. Now if you decide to play a full day in one casino and the next day a full day in the other casino, your ADT in BOTH casinos will be twice as big as playing half day in one premise and the other half in another for two consecutive days while over that two day period you end up giving both casinos exactly the same amount of business.
Quote: ahiromuRumor from another forum is that CET adjusted their theo calculation significantly (in the wrong direction). Anyone here been surprised by lack of backend lately?
My room offers from CET lately have been much worse and they only let you book maybe three months in advance now t most. In a typical year, I would book March madness well In advance
Since the last poster wrote you can book more then three months in advance- I wasted my time and just booked nobu hotel for march
As you can see I'm not even a diamond player on that card and still booked 6 months in advance
https://imgur.com/gallery/MhhBG
For instance people expect comps playing 1 job
At 5k coin in an hour you have a value to the casino of 25 dollars per hour if you play 8 hours a day you shouldn't expect anything more then a buffet comp
Quote: WizardofnothingThe bottom line is most people don't understand adt. Adw adv. anw And more -
For instance people expect comps playing 1 job
At 5k coin in an hour you have a value to the casino of 25 dollars per hour if you play 8 hours a day you shouldn't expect anything more then a buffet comp
Yet you have those who expect full RFB for that level of play with a suite. Most don't get it.
Quote: BozWith CZR it can have benefits in places you have never been as a first visit baseline, at least for free rooms. But after a visit there, you are rated based on that play and hurting your ADT in another city will not affect that one. At least in my experience. You have been all over, have you had the same experiences?
Example:
Customer has never been to Lake Tahoe but has a good AC ADT. Customers gets a free room no problem. Plays at LT and starts keeping offers there based on visit.
Customers destroys AC ADT but customer will still get offers from LT based on that visit. AC play did not affect LT.
yes, it's been my experience.
my home casino = Horseshoe Baltimore.
I visited Atlantic City once in the past 3yrs, which was last month.
three $5k coin-in days at AC = $75 free play each week for the next couple of months.
so I stopped gambling at Horseshoe Baltimore. only go there for the free food in Diamond lounge.
swipe my card to get in and eat.
my adt for each visit I do that = $0.
I no longer get any offers at Horseshoe.
since they nerfed everything, including swapping promo chips to Direct Bet slips, I don't care.
cant wait till MGM in Maryland to open in Dec
Quote: WizardofnothingNot trying to bash anyone but sometimes the misinformation is mind boggling
Since the last poster wrote you can book more then three months in advance- I wasted my time and just booked nobu hotel for march
As you can see I'm not even a diamond player on that card and still booked 6 months in advance
https://imgur.com/gallery/MhhBG
Well I can't book March through Total Rewards.com as of Friday - I don't know why you think I'm making this up.
I've tried to book March Madness without success - I haven't called though
I'm here to try to contribute when I can though.
https://imgur.com/gallery/gr61W
My friend is a seven star and usually with his host I can get something comped so I probably will have to go that route.
Quote: WizardofnothingNot trying to bash anyone but sometimes the misinformation is mind boggling
Since the last poster wrote you can book more then three months in advance- I wasted my time and just booked nobu hotel for march
As you can see I'm not even a diamond player on that card and still booked 6 months in advance
https://imgur.com/gallery/MhhBG
how much have u lost to get comped nobu?
I did three $25k coin-in days the one week I've been in Vegas this year. I'm up +$500 and I can't even get a comped regular room at Caesars, much less nobu.
Can only get comped rooms at the lesser properties
The tier score speaks for itself as far as coin in
I've been playing more pie gow when I go to Harrahs Kansas City - now that I've made 40,000 points maybe I'm just better off playing somewhere else? I usually play $25 a hand but I know that's a fairly slow game
Quote: WizardofnothingOn that card I'm up 1200 dollars
The tier score speaks for itself as far as coin in
With tier bonuses, not precisely. But with your offers, I'm guessing you've played 3 days this year? More/less?
Quote: ZourahI'd love to know exactly what I'm doing wrong - PM would be appreciated if you don't want to post it here
I've been playing more pie gow when I go to Harrahs Kansas City - now that I've made 40,000 points maybe I'm just better off playing somewhere else? I usually play $25 a hand but I know that's a fairly slow game
At 30 hands per hour and four hours per day, you're worth $60-70 (per day). You're lucky to get anything more than a buffet, maybe cheap off weekend rooms in Vegas. Your tier credit total doesn't matter.
At a locals joint, you're probably putting in less than four hours, so your ADT is less than $50. Suffice to say, with the limited info you provided, you're really not worth much.
Quote: ahiromuAt 30 hands per hour and four hours per day, you're worth $60-70 (per day). You're lucky to get anything more than a buffet, maybe cheap off weekend rooms in Vegas. Your tier credit total doesn't matter.
At a locals joint, you're probably putting in less than four hours, so your ADT is less than $50. Suffice to say, with the limited info you provided, you're really not worth much.
Can you have an ADT that low in Kansas City with 40,000 Tier points? Going every day?
