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Buzzard
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February 19th, 2013 at 2:09:31 PM permalink
I just love it when dice setters compare dice setter's skill to Tiger Woods in Golf. Yet refuse to spot me any strokes. The dice setters
on this forum are much closer to Maurice Flitcroft than Tiger Woods.
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Ahigh
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February 19th, 2013 at 2:14:55 PM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

And I think it's time for Ahigh to set the record straight:

Ahigh, are you or are you not a dice influencer? Can you throw the dice in a certain way to improve your chances of winning? Do you have a bias when you throw your dice?

Okay tupp, let's wait for Ahigh's response.



I already answered this question (multiple time even I think).

Quote: Ahigh

The phrase "so-called DI" means very little to me and I do not consider myself a DI, nor do I use that term in general.



taken from post:

http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/tables/12063-why-dice-control-does-not-work/6/#post198829

Quote: Ahigh

Yeah, you know what, I think I do still believe that. I still don't consider myself a "DI" or an AP craps player, really.



taken from post:

http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/craps/12072-blew-out-my-bankroll/4/#post199031

I am certain that by your definition of the term "dice influencer" I am not one. I generally think that there is not currently a term that is governed by any body that requires any testing and certification.

The term "DI" to me is an adjective, like "Super."

It's pretty ambiguous in meaning as anybody can apply it to themselves without fear for being inaccurate. IE: it means nothing.
Buzzard
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February 19th, 2013 at 2:17:33 PM permalink
" The term "DI" to me is an adjective, like "Super."

It's pretty ambiguous in meaning as anybody can apply it to themselves without fear for being inaccurate. IE: it means nothing. "

I beg to differ. I enjoy the title of World's Greatest Dice Setter and do not plan to relinquish my well earned title.
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Ahigh
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February 19th, 2013 at 2:22:17 PM permalink
Maybe that is one thing that I can do after I get all this stuff figured out, offer certifications for shooters who think that they can perform an advantage throw.

Wouldn't it be nice if you had an instructor teaching you how to throw the dice who actually had some evidence from an unbiased party .. a SCORE even of how effective their techniques are for THEMSELVES in the long run of independent trials on my setup?

Even without proof, having a system of evaluation where you were not allowed to throw out previously recorded samples to come up with a single composite score would be great.

I'm coding up Chi-squared into my software, and it's pretty cool really.
thecesspit
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February 19th, 2013 at 2:23:50 PM permalink
Quote: Buzzard

" The term "DI" to me is an adjective, like "Super."

It's pretty ambiguous in meaning as anybody can apply it to themselves without fear for being inaccurate. IE: it means nothing. "

I beg to differ. I enjoy the title of World's Greatest Dice Setter and do not plan to relinquish my well earned title.



You keep running away from my challenge to take that title from you... man up! ;)
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Buzzard
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February 19th, 2013 at 2:33:22 PM permalink
Just waiting for my agent to seal the deal with a Reality TV Producer. Preliminary plan is a challenge between Honey Boo Boo and Ahigh.
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AlanMendelson
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February 19th, 2013 at 3:16:36 PM permalink
Ahigh, since you will not respond to the query about being a "dice influencer" directly, let me put the question to you differently:

do you think you have an advantage throwing the dice that is greater than a random shooter, and what do you attribute this advantage to? Please be specific:

1. do you have an advantage?
2. can you throw the dice with better results than a random shooter?
3. why can you throw the dice with better results than a random shooter?
CrapsForever
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February 19th, 2013 at 3:54:06 PM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

The 6262 set you show, with the 6s running like railroad tracks is a set used to INCREASE the number of 7s. It is used for the come out roll. If you are telling me that this set decreases the appearance of a 7 you are not influencing the dice.



You can't make that assumption. In my last Craps Trip, I saw a lady shooting from Straightout using the 6/5 6/5 Dice Set during the Point Cycle and she was hitting numbers ALL DAY!

I always thought any Dice Set using the Railroad Track Dice Set (6/6) was ALWAYS full of Horns & 7's so I was very hesitant to bet on her roll however after she threw the Dice more than 30 times, I finally relented and bet on her for the last 15 minutes of her 45 minute roll.

She proved me wrong, we can no longer make an assumption that a specific Dice Set is only going to produce a specific set of #'s. I only wish I would have jumped and bet on her roll a lot earlier...
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AlanMendelson
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February 19th, 2013 at 4:22:54 PM permalink
Quote: CrapsForever

You can't make that assumption. In my last Craps Trip, I saw a lady shooting from Straightout using the 6/5 6/5 Dice Set during the Point Cycle and she was hitting numbers ALL DAY!

I always thought any Dice Set using the Railroad Track Dice Set (6/6) was ALWAYS full of Horns & 7's so I was very hesitant to bet on her roll however after she threw the Dice more than 30 times, I finally relented and bet on her for the last 15 minutes of her 45 minute roll.

She proved me wrong, we can no longer make an assumption that a specific Dice Set is only going to produce a specific set of #'s. I only wish I would have jumped and bet on her roll a lot earlier...



I can think of two possible explanations for this:

1. She set her dice but was not a dice influencer and just let them fly. I think just about everybody sets their dice these days but few even attempt to control or influence their throw and bounce.

2. She has studied craps throwing techniques under Ahigh and was the mystery guest who is not showing up tonight.
thecesspit
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February 19th, 2013 at 4:24:58 PM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

I can think of two possible explanations for this:

1. She set her dice but was not a dice influencer and just let them fly. I think just about everybody sets their dice these days but few even attempt to control or influence their throw and bounce.

2. She has studied craps throwing techniques under Ahigh and was the mystery guest who is not showing up tonight.



3. The start position of the dice is only one factor in a controlled throw.
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