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james121515
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March 8th, 2012 at 7:09:31 PM permalink
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It would have been so much easier to put the $25 there instead of what he did. And most dealers do it that way.



Yes, that is also what I have seen on most layouts, and actually that is the reason I asked. I was wondering what, assuming the player does not specify, is the default payout of a horn high bet (which is based on a strictly mental breakdown of the bet in the dealer's head)
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March 8th, 2012 at 7:33:33 PM permalink
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I was wondering what, assuming the player does not specify, is the default payout of a horn high bet
(which is based on a strictly mental breakdown of the bet in the dealer's head)

Dealers and Stick will, or should, ask the player if he wants the same bet. That was a real common procedure when I dealt the game.
That way they know what road to take.
I'd also say by asking 80% would keep the bet up to win again and when not asked, 80% would want the bet back.
The house wants the bet up to win again.

Most good dealers have the horn high bets memorized from $5 to $25, those being the most common bet amounts.
Craps dealers are not perfect, even tho' many think they are, and many times the old brain just does not want to work.

So the fall back is divide the bet by 5. Now what number hit? and so on.
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NowTheSerpent
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April 17th, 2012 at 3:04:42 AM permalink
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When you a horn high bet that is in increments of $5, is the amount that goes on the "high" number always $1? Or is always For example, if you do a $25 horn hi yo, is it $6 on the 2, $6on the 3, $6 on 12, and $7 on yo? Or is it $5 on 2, $5 on 3, $5 on 12, and $10 on yo?



The standard is: for every $5N booked in a Horn-High zone, $N is counted to be on each one of three horn numbers and $2N is counted to be on the horn number seen in the particular Horn-High zone. The purpose of Horn, Horn High, C&E, and Whirl betting zones is to (1) favor the player's impulse to make high-profit-margin bets easily and (2) make the tracking of popular side bets convenient. A player making a $5 Horn-High-Yo, by definition, is making a bet of $1 on each of 2, 3, and 12 and and a bet of $2 on 11 - it's what "Horn High Yo" really means. The separate zone simply lowers his inhibition by allowing him to bet "big" more quickly and reduces the chance of someone else's bet on any of the numbers being confused with his. A nuanced $25 bet made up of $6 on each Crap with $7 on 11 would not be a true Horn-High-Yo and would best be made in four separate strokes.
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August 21st, 2021 at 2:41:15 AM permalink
I was interested to know if you can leave your horn high aces bet up or "working" so you do not have to bet it over and over after every roll ????
ChumpChange
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August 21st, 2021 at 4:51:38 AM permalink
If I'm trying to parlay my wins on the HH11 and I keep rolling 3's which pay 15 to 1,
a $5 HH11 bet would pay $15,
a $15 HH11 bet would pay $45,
a $45 HH11 bet would pay $135,
a $135 HH11 bet would pay $405,
a $405 HH11 bet would pay $1215,
a $1,000 HH11 (table max) bet would pay $3,000.
So 6 3's in a row pays the table max.

If I'm trying to parlay my wins on the HH11 and I keep rolling 11's which pay 15 to 1,
a $5 HH11 bet would pay $30,
a $30 HH11 bet would pay $180,
a $180 HH11 bet would pay $1080,
a $1,000 HH11 (table max) bet would pay $6,000.
So 4 yo's in a row pays table max.
If I win on the 30 to 1 bets, they count as yo's for half the bet and pay the same amount.
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August 21st, 2021 at 5:24:20 AM permalink
https://www.parlaynation.com/horn-high
What Does the Horn High Pay on a Craps Game?
The Horn High’s are some of the most confusing bets to pay on a Craps table. There are only four payments you need to know in order to pay all the bets but it’s knowing when to apply each of those four numbers that makes paying them so difficult. You need to understand a few things before you’ll be able to figure out the payments of the Horn Highs right off the bat.

Directly - the Horn High that you bet is the number that rolled. For example, you bet the Horn High Twelve and the Twelve rolled or you bet the Horn High Ace Deuce and the Ace Deuce roll. That is a direct hit.

Indirectly - one of the other numbers rolled. For example, you bet the Horn High Aces and the Twelve rolled or you bet the Horn High Yo and the Aces roll. Those are indirect hits.

High Side - The Horn High Aces and the Horn High Twelve pay the exact same when they hit directly or indirectly because both the Aces and the Twelve pay 30 to 1. They are both considered the high side.

Low Side - The Horn High Ace Deuce and the Horn High Yo pay the exact same when they hit directly or indirectly because both the Ace Deuce and the Yo pay 15 to 1. They are both considered the low side.

A Horn High will pay one of 4 payments

$57 - High side hits directly. For example, Horn High Twelve, and Twelve rolls.

$27 - Low side hits directly. For example, Horn High Yo, and Yo rolls.

$26 - High side hits indirectly. For example, Horn High Ace Deuce, and Twelve Rolls.

$11 - Low side hits indirectly. For example, Horn High Aces, and Yo rolls.
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August 21st, 2021 at 5:40:24 AM permalink
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https://www.parlaynation.com/horn-high
What Does the Horn High Pay on a Craps Game?
The Horn High’s are some of the most confusing bets to pay on a Craps table. There are only four payments you need to know in order to pay all the bets but it’s knowing when to apply each of those four numbers that makes paying them so difficult. You need to understand a few things before you’ll be able to figure out the payments of the Horn Highs right off the bat.

Directly - the Horn High that you bet is the number that rolled. For example, you bet the Horn High Twelve and the Twelve rolled or you bet the Horn High Ace Deuce and the Ace Deuce roll. That is a direct hit.

Indirectly - one of the other numbers rolled. For example, you bet the Horn High Aces and the Twelve rolled or you bet the Horn High Yo and the Aces roll. Those are indirect hits.

High Side - The Horn High Aces and the Horn High Twelve pay the exact same when they hit directly or indirectly because both the Aces and the Twelve pay 30 to 1. They are both considered the high side.

Low Side - The Horn High Ace Deuce and the Horn High Yo pay the exact same when they hit directly or indirectly because both the Ace Deuce and the Yo pay 15 to 1. They are both considered the low side.

A Horn High will pay one of 4 payments

$57 - High side hits directly. For example, Horn High Twelve, and Twelve rolls.

$27 - Low side hits directly. For example, Horn High Yo, and Yo rolls.

$26 - High side hits indirectly. For example, Horn High Ace Deuce, and Twelve Rolls.

$11 - Low side hits indirectly. For example, Horn High Aces, and Yo rolls.



Too complicated.

When you bet a horn high anything only the number rolled gets paid. If you want to keep the horn high bet up for another roll, the cost of the three losing bets is deducted from the payoff.

That's the simple way.
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August 21st, 2021 at 5:47:00 AM permalink
I've never bet a horn bet or a horn high bet.

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