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vert1276
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December 26th, 2011 at 11:35:44 PM permalink
Something I ran into the other day at the craps table....It wasn't me but a guy playing two shooters away.....let me set up a scenario...and tell me what you would assume the dealer would do ok?

you are playing at a \$10 table, you make your normal P/L bet. The point comes out, lets say its a 5. NOW you make a \$12 6, 8 Place bet. The shooter rolls a 8. You win \$14.....Before the dealer pays you, you say these EXACT words "press it back" NOT "press the 8"....but just the words "press it back".....ok, so that's the scenario.....what would you expect a dealer to do?

A) make the 8 look like 24 and pay you the additional \$2
or
B) make the 6 and 8 look like 18 and pay you the additional \$2
FleaStiff
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December 26th, 2011 at 11:52:10 PM permalink
No bet.
"it"??
"back"???
I would expect "A"... you are pressing the bet that won.
There is no such thing as a 6/8 Place Bet. Its a Place Bet on the 6 and a Place Bet on the 8.
You are using your winning to Press the bet that just won, which was the 8.
vert1276
Joined: Apr 25, 2011
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December 27th, 2011 at 12:01:34 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

No bet.
"it"??
"back"???
I would expect "A"... you are pressing the bet that won.
There is no such thing as a 6/8 Place Bet. Its a Place Bet on the 6 and a Place Bet on the 8.
You are using your winning to Press the bet that just won, which was the 8.

well dude of course I meant he placed the 6 AND THE 8 of \$12 each.....sorry if that was confusing.....if he didnt place the 6 AND the 8 for \$12 than why would one of the options be "make the 6 and 8 look like \$18"?

and of course if I was making the bet I would have made it clear and said "press \$12 back on the 8" or "make the 8 look like \$24" and there would have been no confusion....but I wasn't making the bet....
odiousgambit
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December 27th, 2011 at 1:45:29 AM permalink
sometimes I'm glad I seldom make these bets
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell! She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
FleaStiff
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December 27th, 2011 at 2:07:26 AM permalink
Quote: vert1276

well dude of course I meant he placed the 6 AND THE 8 of \$12 each..

Precisely. And ONE of those bets won. So the word PRESS relates to that winning bet (Place the 8) and does relate to the (Place the 6 and Place the 8).

Was there a resultant dispute ?
How was it resolved?
What sort of a crew is that Box running?
kaysirtap
Joined: Nov 1, 2011
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December 27th, 2011 at 2:25:44 AM permalink
I would expect the dealer to ask you to clarify your request. In my opinion, the closest interpretation of "press it back" would mean to press the 8 to \$24... but this is a distant second to the dealer asking for clarification.
DJTeddyBear
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December 27th, 2011 at 5:18:38 AM permalink
Unlike the confusion in the thread about parlaying the split hi/lo bet, there is no split line for the 6 / 8.

Therefore, "It" can only refer to the place bet on the 8.

On the other hand, there is a link between them. If the bettor had said "Press both", it is automatically understood which bets were intended, even if the bettor had additional bets up. So if the bettor said "Both", I would have voted "A".

HOWEVER, "Back" is meaningless. I would expect the dealer to ask what you meant, and have therefore voted "other".

If the dealer did anything other than ask for clarification, I would think he'd press the 8 to \$24, with \$2 change.
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Whiggi
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December 27th, 2011 at 5:43:04 AM permalink
what the hell is press it back?
DJTeddyBear
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December 27th, 2011 at 7:54:43 AM permalink
There is one additional detail that is missing from the original question: What was the player's pattern prior to this point?

If he was consistant with his betting pattern, good dealers would be ready to take the action intended, without necessarily hearing any statement.

I.E. I typically start with \$12 each on the 6/8 like the original shooter. If one hits, and I drop \$1, the dealer knows to pay me \$15.

When I'm ready, I'll say "Press both one unit." From that point on, I usually only have to say "Press" or "Same." If I had pressed them to \$18, and I drop \$1, then he'll know I intend to press to \$24.

But even if the dealer was familiar with the player's pattern, if he heard "Press it back", I would think he'd ask what was meant.
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