What is the average total bet for a pass line bet and x number of come bets, at 3-4-5x odds? I generally like to have 3 points working at any given time, but on the last few trips I've started to be concerned that I'm overbetting my bankroll.

Assuming this style: PL bet, full odds, followed by come bets with full odds until 3 pts are established. Then I stop betting. I only add another bet as one is resolved (or 7 out), never more than 3 pts. On average, how much money do I have out there?

Would you mind giving a quick run through of the math you used to calculate that? Again, I like to make one pass line bet and two come bets, with max 3-4-5x odds.

So if the avg bet is 5.16 units, would avg bet with 3 points be 5.16 x 3?

Quote:mhernandez116Thank you for the response.

Would you mind giving a quick run through of the math you used to calculate that? Again, I like to make one pass line bet and two come bets, with max 3-4-5x odds.

So if the avg bet is 5.16 units, would avg bet with 3 points be 5.16 x 3?

36 rolls by the numbers

12 rolls will be front line winners or losers........8 winners 4 losers

24 rolls will points will be established

4 and 10 est. 6 times......1 unit P/L plus 3 units odds... 4 units total 4X6=24 units

5 and 9 est 8 times......1 unit P/L plus 4 units odds... 5 units total 5X8=40 units

6 and8 est. 10 times.....1 unit P/L plus 5 units odds...6 units total 6X10= 60 units

124 total units 24 rolls........average bet per 5.16

SO if you had 1 P/L with full odds and 2 comes bets working with full odds you will have about 15.5 units in play

Quote:mhernandez116PL bet, full odds, followed by come bets with full odds until 3 pts are established. Then I stop betting. I only add another bet as one is resolved (or 7 out), never more than 3 pts. On average, how much money do I have out there?

That it was something close to 5 units was a gimme, and that 3 numbers working with odds was about 15 units. So I wonder if that really was the question you intended.

Quote:vert127636 rolls by the numbers

12 rolls will be front line winners or losers........8 winners 4 losers

24 rolls will points will be established

4 and 10 est. 6 times......1 unit P/L plus 3 units odds... 4 units total 4X6=24 units

5 and 9 est 8 times......1 unit P/L plus 4 units odds... 5 units total 5X8=40 units

6 and8 est. 10 times.....1 unit P/L plus 5 units odds...6 units total 6X10= 60 units

124 total units 24 rolls........average bet per 5.16

SO if you had 1 P/L with full odds and 2 comes bets working with full odds you will have about 15.5 units in play

For a variant question that I often ask myself, "as you play, betting full 3x4x5x odds but sometimes of course just getting immediate front line resolution, what is your average bet?" This when working perhaps with an estimate of come-out rolls per hour and want to know your average bet based on that. Now it's 136 units per 36 rolls, approx. 3.78 units per come-out roll. Unless I missed something.

When you do come bets, basically you are increasing the percentage of come-out rolls per actual rolls. I've always had to guess at how many come-out-equivalent bets I was making. For one thing I am not consistent. But I figure about 40 per hundred rolls when adding 'some' come bets, instead of the average of about 30 per 100 when never betting come, is right for me. If you were consistent about your style, never failing to make a come bet when your strategy called for it, the numbers could be crunched on that too.

I was confusing myself trying to account for the front line decisions as well as the times the shooter will 7-out before I get all three points.

Very helpful, much appreciated.

Thanks

Quote:HarmonyI'm fairly new to craps and usually play $5 tables. Lately most of the tables have $10 minimums. What are the minimum bets for Come line and placing the 6 and 8? Obviously the Come bet minimum is $10 but what about the 6 and 8. Can you still wager $6 or do you have to go up to $12??

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It would have to be $12 (likewise, $18 for a $15 min, $30 for a $25 min).