MrRalph
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June 8th, 2011 at 10:43:04 AM permalink
I was wondering if the wizard ever checked Yuri's dice sets in his book. I was wondering how accurate his calculations are. I know Stanford Wong quoted him some in his book. I see no one else uses or recommends any of Yuri's dice sets so I was wondering if his calculations were wrong or misguided. It appears he put a good deal of time into his determinations and in theory they make sense but in the casino math always beats theory.
Ayecarumba
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June 8th, 2011 at 10:44:46 AM permalink
I am not familiar with "Yuri's dice sets" Can you provide some highlights?
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June 8th, 2011 at 11:07:49 AM permalink
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I am not familiar with "Yuri's dice sets"



Neither am I.
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MrRalph
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June 8th, 2011 at 5:44:46 PM permalink
You would have to have read his book. he has different dice sets as do modern controlled throwers of the dice for certain numbers both for laying odds and taking odds or numbers. They are different than anything the modern day gurus are teaching. He seems to feel as we all know the seven is coming so make as much money as you can before it happens on certain numbers rather than "I am going to have a really long roll". I do not believe he feels most people even himself had or have the control to consistently have primary hits such as the hardways when you are setting for them. Instead he believes you will more times than not have a quarter or a double pitch. His theory is based on you being able to keep the dice on axis as all modern day teachers teach and having those dice only come up with the possible combinations if the dice stay on axis. Example: his best set for the right bettor has this configuration, 1st die will have 2 and 5 on its sides, second die will have 1 and 6. The faces on the first die will be 1,3,4 & 6, the second die will have 2,3,4,&5 He figures that with this dice set and on axis control you will have a 3.2% edge on the pass line, a 5.7% edge placing the 6&8 and a 4.9% edgeon the 5&9. This particular dice set shown in the book had the 4-3 on top which put a 3-4 on the bottom and a 6-2 facing you. The book was probably one of the first on the subject and is a short interesting read I enjoyed it and was just wondering if his calculations made any sense as I am not a math guy.
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June 8th, 2011 at 7:41:36 PM permalink
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June 8th, 2011 at 8:12:18 PM permalink
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You would have to have read his book. he has different dice sets as do modern controlled throwers of the dice for certain numbers both for laying odds and taking odds or numbers...



I have a page on that at http://wizardofodds.com/craps/appendix6.html.
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