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April 21st, 2022 at 8:01:36 PM permalink
Quote: unJon

The don’t isn’t a contract bet, and they’ll let you shoot with a don’t bet. So it’s not that.
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If you take your don't down, will they take the dice away?
May the cards fall in your favor.
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April 21st, 2022 at 8:25:03 PM permalink
Quote: Dieter

Quote: unJon

The don’t isn’t a contract bet, and they’ll let you shoot with a don’t bet. So it’s not that.
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If you take your don't down, will they take the dice away?
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Point taken
The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that is the way to bet.
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April 21st, 2022 at 8:59:27 PM permalink
The don’t pass bet is a reverse type contract in that although you could take it down, you can’t put it up whenever you want.
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April 21st, 2022 at 9:06:26 PM permalink
Yeah so I have to put down $1 on the PL to shoot and I can put down $6 on the PB 6 or 8 after the come-out on Bubble Craps.
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April 21st, 2022 at 10:06:32 PM permalink
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Quote: Dieter

Why would they let someone who isn't betting play?



You may not understand the nuances of his question.

Take me for example.

When I play craps I rarely roll dem bones anymore because I opt to place bet pretty much exclusively (most of the time) and I eschew a line bet.

The real question is "why don't casinos let a place better with working place bets and no line bet roll the dice?"

There is no sound reason not to allow it that I can see, just conservative adherance to "that's the way it's always been."

Next time I go to the casino I'll try to argue this with the box / floor man just for the hell of it.
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Good point about letting a place bettor with active bets roll.

It really might come down to tradition. Also, don't wives roll for their husbands?
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April 21st, 2022 at 10:09:14 PM permalink
I've seen don't bettors roll, set a point of 6 or 8 and then switch to the pass.
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April 22nd, 2022 at 8:17:24 AM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

… Also, don't wives roll for their husbands?
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Wives/girlfriends shooting is more about sexism than rule breaking.

Often they roll FOR their male partner who does have a line bet.

Usually if the get an actual turn of their own, they have a second line bet down.

The only problem comes when the lady is not betting until she gets her chance to roll. But, since we love to see those ladies lean over the edge of the table to get the dice, and jump up and down when they get excited over a good roll, who would object?
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April 22nd, 2022 at 10:15:47 AM permalink
Craps is a derivative of an historic dice game called Hazard. The Shooter made one bet, which was on himself to win. Other players faded, or covered, parts of that bet up to the full amount. For centuries, that central bet has been called Pass.

For reasons of continuity and tradition each Shooter today must bet on either Pass or a comparatively recent counterpart called Don't Pass.

Dark Side bets became available in the early decades of the last century. Place bets were invented after Nevada made gambling legal. Bonus Craps, Fire Bet, and others are very recent additions. At the core always was the original bet called Pass.
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April 22nd, 2022 at 1:34:12 PM permalink
A much younger me once walked up to an empty Reno craps table and put down my remaining $55 in chips on the Field. The stickman turned to the pit boss and asked if I could do that. He said "yes," and I promptly rolled a 7.

I don't do things like that anymore.
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May 14th, 2022 at 6:48:38 PM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

Years ago when I was a regular at Bellagio a guy came in at 5am on Sundays to play craps.

He bet only when he was the shooter.

He always bet doey/dont with no odds.

That's all.

No one could figure out what his purpose was. He did it every time I saw him play which was many times.
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I can think of three possibilities, all governed by the iron rule that he lose the least amount of money possible. And one extra.
1. He was feigning going to church, but went to the casino instead
2. He was looking to score alcohol before the liquor stores opened at noon, and the casino gave it away for free!
3. He was there for pure entertainment.
4. He was trying out his latent telekinetic powers....

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