gamblehead
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April 21st, 2022 at 3:15:41 PM permalink
Why does every casino require me to have a line bet to shoot the dice?
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April 21st, 2022 at 3:34:01 PM permalink
Because its the rule
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April 21st, 2022 at 5:23:44 PM permalink
Quote: gamblehead

Why does every casino require me to have a line bet to shoot the dice?



Because you are the shooter, and the job of the shooter is to set the point.

Now if it really bothers you I suggest you bet the same amount on both pass and don't pass on the come out (doey-don't) and then remove the don't pass bet when the point is set.

If you're betting a quarter on each then you've the option to make a dollar bet on midnight as a hedge against losing the DP if a 12 shows.
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April 21st, 2022 at 5:30:37 PM permalink
Years ago when I was a regular at Bellagio a guy came in at 5am on Sundays to play craps.

He bet only when he was the shooter.

He always bet doey/dont with no odds.

That's all.

No one could figure out what his purpose was. He did it every time I saw him play which was many times.
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April 21st, 2022 at 6:32:57 PM permalink
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Why does every casino require me to have a line bet to shoot the dice?
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Welcome to the forum.

Why would they let someone who isn't betting play?
May the cards fall in your favor.
MrV
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April 21st, 2022 at 6:41:39 PM permalink
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Why would they let someone who isn't betting play?



You may not understand the nuances of his question.

Take me for example.

When I play craps I rarely roll dem bones anymore because I opt to place bet pretty much exclusively (most of the time) and I eschew a line bet.

The real question is "why don't casinos let a place better with working place bets and no line bet roll the dice?"

There is no sound reason not to allow it that I can see, just conservative adherance to "that's the way it's always been."

Next time I go to the casino I'll try to argue this with the box / floor man just for the hell of it.
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April 21st, 2022 at 7:21:41 PM permalink
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Quote: Dieter

Why would they let someone who isn't betting play?



You may not understand the nuances of his question.

Take me for example.

When I play craps I rarely roll dem bones anymore because I opt to place bet pretty much exclusively (most of the time) and I eschew a line bet.

The real question is "why don't casinos let a place better with working place bets and no line bet roll the dice?"

There is no sound reason not to allow it that I can see, just conservative adherance to "that's the way it's always been."

Next time I go to the casino I'll try to argue this with the box / floor man just for the hell of it.
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To my understanding, the pass/don't pass are the fundamental bets of the game.
Some might view every other bet on the table as a side bet.

If you can take down your bet mid-hand, without a win or loss, the house might be deprived of their edge. The house seems to emphatically prefer not doing that.

I can understand requiring a contract bet of some type before the dice fly, the pass line is a reasonable one to require, and it's reasonable to require it from the shooter.

Curious if the box man will say "you don't have to bet the line or throw the dice" or "you have to bet the line to throw the dice". If there's birdseed, I guess the former.
May the cards fall in your favor.
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April 21st, 2022 at 7:32:47 PM permalink
I understand the contract bet requirement, and as a condition to rolling dem bones without a line bet I'd be willing to agree to having my place bet, in an amount equal to or greater than the minimum line bet, be required to stay up til the point is resolved.

The house should jump all over it and call me "Gamblin' Jesus" for making that offer which gives a bit of HA to the casino.
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April 21st, 2022 at 7:38:27 PM permalink
It would be smart for them to accept your generous terms, so I doubt it will happen. ;)
May the cards fall in your favor.
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April 21st, 2022 at 7:51:30 PM permalink
The donít isnít a contract bet, and theyíll let you shoot with a donít bet. So itís not that.
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