HardEight
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October 21st, 2022 at 10:33:45 PM permalink
I'm heading to Park MGM in Nov. I am still a novice when it comes to betting strategies, and I have never bought the 5/9 before. Usually a $5-$10 player.

Can anyone verify if buying the 5/9 with vig after (aka "on win") still applies at MGM? At a $25 table, which seems more common now on the Strip, do they "auto buy", or do you need to specify you want to buy? And if buying, would it be tacky to bet $26, or just go to $30?

Anyone know if other casinos in Vegas are doing this (ie Caesars, Stations, Downtown, etc) as well?
Ace2
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October 22nd, 2022 at 9:06:33 AM permalink
Buy it for $38 if you must buy
Itís all about making that GTA
ChumpChange
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October 22nd, 2022 at 9:22:12 AM permalink
There might be a minimum bet requirement for a Buy Bet on the 5,9 of $100 or $200 so it's worth a red chip or two for starters. Need to bet in $20 increments that pay $29 instead of $28.
unJon
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October 22nd, 2022 at 5:21:36 PM permalink
When I was there a few months ago the vig was after on the 4/10 only. One craps pit boss let me bet the 5/9 with vig after once (which I did to see if I could) then later told me it wasnít allowed and he shouldnít have.
The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that is the way to bet.
Ace2
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October 22nd, 2022 at 10:50:16 PM permalink
But/Lay the 2 for $39/$234 instead. Commission on win only. Most importantly, donít make any HardEight bets
Itís all about making that GTA
AlanMendelson
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October 23rd, 2022 at 4:51:06 AM permalink
Quote: Ace2

But/Lay the 2 for $39/$234 instead. Commission on win only. Most importantly, donít make any HardEight bets
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If I recall every casino charges the vig on lay bets up front.

Do you play at a casino that doesn't? What's the casino name?

And what casino allows a lay on horn numbers?
Ace2
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October 23rd, 2022 at 10:48:20 AM permalink
All MGM casinos charge vig on win only for buy and lay bets.

I have not found a Vegas casino that allows lay bets in a Crapless Craps game but I didnít search much. But I believe there are casinos that allow it
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AlanMendelson
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October 23rd, 2022 at 3:56:51 PM permalink
Quote: Ace2

All MGM casinos charge vig on win only for buy and lay bets.

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I think all casinos now charge the vig when a buy bet wins... though years ago you paid the vig when you bought the 4 and 10.

But this is a surprise to me that the vig is paid only when a lay bet wins??

I haven't played at an MGM property in years... and I can't play craps at MGM Grand and NYNY... but other casinos I play at I must pay the vig when laying a number. This includes Red Rock and Suncoast.
AlanMendelson
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October 23rd, 2022 at 5:33:36 PM permalink
Learn something new everyday...

I just called the craps pit at Bellagio and they confirmed they just switched over to charging the vig on winning lay bets.

I don't know when the other MGM casinos started this but if I returned to MGM it would be at Bellagio.

Now I'm going to ask Red Rock if they'll follow??
Ace2
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AlanMendelson
October 23rd, 2022 at 5:50:52 PM permalink
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I don't know when the other MGM casinos started this but if I returned to MGM it would be at Bellagio.
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The first post of this thread, stating no more up-front vig on buy/lay at MGM properties, is dated Apr-17. That same day you commented: ďThis is very important to me because I typically lay a remaining box number when only one is needed for the Bonus Craps (All, Tall, Small) bets.Ē

Are you sure this is ďnew newsĒ?
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