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July 20th, 2020 at 4:47:15 PM permalink
Sorry for the late arrival. I have tried every link in this thread to play a demo, but none seem to have the game or I'm rebuffed by a password request. However, this video was helpful.

Questions:
1. Can I re-roll a die already placed in the tray?
2. If I'm happy with what I have after the first or second roll, must I re-roll? If not, how does the player indicate he doesn't want any remaining rolls?

I would appreciate a nice screen-shot of the game from anybody who has password access.
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July 20th, 2020 at 5:47:37 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

1. Can I re-roll a die already placed in the tray?
2. If I'm happy with what I have after the first or second roll, must I re-roll? If not, how does the player indicate he doesn't want any remaining rolls?

I would appreciate a nice screen-shot of the game from anybody who has password access.



1. The tray is a nice representation of held dice. You can change your mind and un-click them before you press "ROLL".
2. You always can stand - by pressing the "STAND" button. If it's throwing away the stake you will be asked for confirmation as safety net.
3. as per your request - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JuyoKI8ey54ZQn3zOfNR0Sm1j6ZkZIU7/view?usp=sharing
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July 20th, 2020 at 10:04:32 PM permalink
Thank you Matt.
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July 21st, 2020 at 4:39:10 AM permalink
Because like every wacko I like doing things to completion, here's the 1-page best strategy ready to print. Two, actually. One most user-friendly, the other with EV. It's in open file format so easy to copy and change. Maybe it's worth releasing urbi et orbi.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tQuGA70dPMElB_UH3pAGr9fHayfYY59z/view?usp=sharing
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July 21st, 2020 at 6:37:17 AM permalink
MattUK -
Nice job, but I wish there was also a chart showing the possibility of each hand at the end of 3 rolls. Kind of important when figuring the house edge.
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July 21st, 2020 at 7:36:08 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

MattUK -
Nice job, but I wish there was also a chart showing the possibility of each hand at the end of 3 rolls. Kind of important when figuring the house edge.


Sorry to disappoint. :-) The house edge is what it is - 0.46% when making best choices. Just between Pass Line and Don't Pass Line in Playtech Craps. A pity they did not best Don't Pass Line, in my opinion. This game is more complex than Craps so should be 99.60-99.70%. 0.1% from heaven. Alas, still great game, where you need to earn an almost equal chance against the casino.
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July 22nd, 2020 at 10:07:22 AM permalink
Quote: MattUK

Because like every wacko I like doing things to completion, here's the 1-page best strategy ready to print. Two, actually. One most user-friendly, the other with EV. It's in open file format so easy to copy and change. Maybe it's worth releasing urbi et orbi.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tQuGA70dPMElB_UH3pAGr9fHayfYY59z/view?usp=sharing



Very nice work! May I use this on Wizard of Odds? I'm happy to give proper attribution, of course. Just let me know how you would like to be known.

I am about 80% done with a program to analyze the game and it is looking like it may run rather slowly if the player ever re-rolls four dice. Never a need to re-roll all five, obviously. It seems clear from your strategy that the player never rolls four, but just to be safe, can you confirm that?
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July 22nd, 2020 at 10:42:52 AM permalink
Of course you can! That's the plan, actually, and just MattUK will be fine.
I think it's rather clear that
(1) the only way to improve having Four of a kind is to go for Five of a kind,
(2) you must roll, or you'll waste the opportunity to improve from 2.500 to 4.000
(3) it's FAR easier to match the fifth die to the Four of a kind (match the tail to a dog) than four dice to the fifth (match the dog to a tail).
The usefulness of this reasoning is not exhaustive.
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July 22nd, 2020 at 12:15:07 PM permalink
I canít think of any reason to save just one die - unless they add something whacky such as six separate progressives for the six different 5OAKs, and your 5 dice are not a straight, AND one (or more) of the progressives is particularly high.

And I bet if the game gets any traction at all, they will add those progressives.
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July 23rd, 2020 at 10:17:56 AM permalink
There are not many casino games with over 99% RTP, which one could play for long with a peace of mind. It's occupied by video poker, all blackjack, Spanish21, Pontoon (both blackjack cousins anyway) and Craps. Playtech has had one slot flirting with that idea - Goblin's Cave with 99.32% RTP if played with max coins. However, without knowing the probabilities of picking up the treasures no one knew the best strategy so it was a tragically wasted opportunity to create something unique. Nice Dice takes off where Goblin's Cave has failed. Anyone can create or check the best strategy and play safely hundreds of rounds as long as the numbers are generated randomly, which is not in question. Nice Dice, er, Job, Roxor Gaming!
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