Joeman
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May 5th, 2020 at 10:05:51 AM permalink
Is Covid smoke more contagious (or should that be 'more infectious' -- I never can tell) than regular Covid breath? Don't get me wrong, I'd also rather not be near a smoker, especially in these times, but does the fact that they are also exhaling smoke make it more likely to spread the virus than if they were just breathing normally? (Not trying to snark, I'm genuinely curious.)
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May 5th, 2020 at 10:53:31 AM permalink
Craps tables limited to at most 3 per side, still staffed with three dealers? $25 minimums, likely no box man.
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May 5th, 2020 at 10:54:49 AM permalink
Quote: Joeman

Is Covid smoke more contagious (or should that be 'more infectious' -- I never can tell) than regular Covid breath? Don't get me wrong, I'd also rather not be near a smoker, especially in these times, but does the fact that they are also exhaling smoke make it more likely to spread the virus than if they were just breathing normally? (Not trying to snark, I'm genuinely curious.)



I'm opening a can of worms to say this, but preliminary data indicates there may be a strong correlation between smoking and being protected from COVID-19. What they're seeing, in general, is that smokers make up between 19%-25% of the population by nationality, but only about 5% of the serious cases requiring hospitalization.

The theory they're exploring is that the cell receptors needed by COVID-19 to unlock the cell for replication are already largely occupied by nicotine, especially in the lungs, and so even when exposed, the virus can't replicate enough to take over the body.

This is why there are already shortages of nicotine patches, gum, and some tobacco, as people look to protect themselves, especially in France, which first reported a possible correlation. But given the health risks of smoking in the first place, the US and others are not emphasizing this possibility, even though they are seeing similar statistics.

All that is to say, I don't see the casinos banning smoking any time soon - it actually might HELP to have a bit of second -hand smoke around, ridiculous as it seems.
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May 5th, 2020 at 10:56:37 AM permalink
The thing about the smoking is that, a business can’t say the health of their employees and guests is a priority (as they’re saying) and have any integrity to what they’re saying while allowing smoking. The industry has always disproportionately catered to smokers, however, frequently exempt to smoking laws that other businesses aren’t allowed, no smoking areas if there are any are often a single digit percentage of the floor which would be the direct opposite of the proportion of people smoking.
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May 5th, 2020 at 11:11:21 AM permalink
If you take away chairs at a blackjack table or at every other slot machine there isn't six feet either.

The goal is spacing. It appears that six-feet is the spacing in lines but 24 inches is okay for gambling.
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May 5th, 2020 at 11:50:00 AM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

If you take away chairs at a blackjack table or at every other slot machine there isn't six feet either.

The goal is spacing. It appears that six-feet is the spacing in lines but 24 inches is okay for gambling.



Not sure, but IMO, plexiglass between slots, or even crap players on the rails can eliminate the need for 6 feet.

You wouldn't be able to have a crowded craps table because people will still want elbow room.
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May 5th, 2020 at 12:29:18 PM permalink
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This already exists. I don’t know what casino, and it might have been a field trial. But it was mentioned on a thread here a year or so ago.

If I recall correctly, when it’s your turn to shoot, the credits from your terminal transfers to the terminal up front next to the craps table. At the same time, your old terminal becomes locked out for you to return to when you’re done shooting.



Yes, i mentioned a similar game I saw at Maryland Live last year. However the main craps table had a weird layout and it wasn't a full length table nor did it have the same bounce or dice. It was not like a real craps table and game. Close but not full layout... and the dice seemed weird. It did feed , by video, out to many kiosks for individuals to sit and play electronically. If they will just bring a real crap table out front with a real stick man and real dice, with a flow to the game... this would be EXTRAordinary ! I believe this should be and probably will be the future of craps until covid is resolved. It will be such an easy sell for the game maker to the casinos. Anyone from Interblock here? PM me! Please!!!!

The notion that people wont play stadium style craps is BS. They will absolutely play if there is no other option. Build it and they will come. People love craps.... they want to make money and beat the game.. I dont thing everyone needs to be on a crowded table hangin with the peeps in order to play the game. That is false... imho. People want to make money! or try to at least.
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May 5th, 2020 at 1:50:31 PM permalink
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Quote: Joeman

Is Covid smoke more contagious (or should that be 'more infectious' -- I never can tell) than regular Covid breath? Don't get me wrong, I'd also rather not be near a smoker, especially in these times, but does the fact that they are also exhaling smoke make it more likely to spread the virus than if they were just breathing normally? (Not trying to snark, I'm genuinely curious.)



I'm opening a can of worms to say this, but preliminary data indicates there may be a strong correlation between smoking and being protected from COVID-19. What they're seeing, in general, is that smokers make up between 19%-25% of the population by nationality, but only about 5% of the serious cases requiring hospitalization.

The theory they're exploring is that the cell receptors needed by COVID-19 to unlock the cell for replication are already largely occupied by nicotine, especially in the lungs, and so even when exposed, the virus can't replicate enough to take over the body.

This is why there are already shortages of nicotine patches, gum, and some tobacco, as people look to protect themselves, especially in France, which first reported a possible correlation. But given the health risks of smoking in the first place, the US and others are not emphasizing this possibility, even though they are seeing similar statistics.

All that is to say, I don't see the casinos banning smoking any time soon - it actually might HELP to have a bit of second -hand smoke around, ridiculous as it seems.


Some experts including the CDC have been throwing some cold water on that study. Others have dismissed it as flawed. WHO also has different ideas. For every one that says no....there probably is one that says yes.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/3055378001
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May 5th, 2020 at 1:55:54 PM permalink
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The thing about the smoking is that, a business can’t say the health of their employees and guests is a priority (as they’re saying) and have any integrity to what they’re saying while allowing smoking.


That’s been my argument as well. Governor Sisolak has declared the ONLY criteria for him is health and safety for the strip, workers, visitors and residents once it re-opens. Money, business and “freedom” are not a part of the health guidelines.

“Oh....and smoking, vaping and cigars are ok.”

He comes off as a giant hypocrite, imo. It’s fine if he wants to leave it alone...just don’t look me in the face and tell me health and safety are the priority....and all else is rescinded.
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May 5th, 2020 at 2:30:13 PM permalink
For me the fun comes from two things. One is throwing the dice and the other is the social aspect. I like it when there's a shooter on a streak and everyone is getting excited and encouraging the shooter. Yeah, I've encountered some real a-holes too but all in all I think I've had more positive interactions at a craps table then negative ones. A stadium setting just won't have that. The whole vibe will change.

To be honest, until they have this under control with vaccines and/or treatments, craps just won't be craps and I'll probably have to find some other form of entertainment.
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