90crapsplayer66
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July 9th, 2018 at 12:03:43 PM permalink
Need Clarification Please:
I'm playing the Dark Side strategy. I've started with $25 on the D/P (no lay bet at this time). The Come Out roll is a 9. After several rolls, I now have Face Bets with lay bets on the 5, the 6, the 9, and the 10.

The next roll is 9, and I lose the bet on the D/P . I'm the shooter so I replenish my D/P bet, $25.
At this point, are my 5, 6, and 10, the remaining bets, turned Off for the new Come Out roll? (As they would be if playing the Right way) or are they ON?

The next Come Out roll is 6. Again, is my 6 bet safe? or do I lose the face bet, but keep the lay bet, which would be returned to me.

And, on that same Come Out roll, if a 7 rolls, I of course would lose the D/P $25, but would I win on the 5, 6, and 10, or are they turned Off?

Thanks for your rsponse,
Dick
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July 9th, 2018 at 12:11:32 PM permalink
I'd defer to other more experienced craps players, but while this "usually" is the same way it definitely CAN change from casino to casino, so always ask... but usually if you have a lay bet those bets are ON during the come out. I.E. Come out winner 7 for the pass line would win all of your DP/lay bets. If on the come out the shooter throws one of your DP/lay bets, you would lose that bet. I don't believe you can turn your DP traveled bets off, other than pulling them down, WHICH YOU SHOULD NEVER EVER EVER EVER DO BECAUSE ONCE THEY'VE TRAVELED YOU HAVE THE ADVANTAGE.

Sorry for the all caps, I see so many people try the don't then take no action on the 6 and 8, which is just ungodly stupid.
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July 9th, 2018 at 12:35:24 PM permalink
Quote: 90crapsplayer66

I'm playing the Dark Side strategy.
I've started with $25 on the D/P (no lay bet at this time). The Come Out roll is a 9. After several rolls, I now have Face Bets with lay bets on the 5, the 6, the 9, and the 10.

The next roll is 9, and I lose the bet on the D/P .
I'm the shooter so I replenish my D/P bet, $25.

happens all the time
Quote: 90crapsplayer66

At this point, are my 5, 6, and 10, the remaining bets, turned Off for the new Come Out roll? (As they would be if playing the Right way) or are they ON?

since the don't side is an opposite of the 'right side', they would be ON.

I have never seen a don't bet OFF on the come out roll. The bets can come down from the don't but I never (except one time long ago) seen the bets turned off.

for the family of the dark side (except place to lose bets-rare on a table)
the don't side is just that (don't)
Lay bets win on any 7, always (not like the don't pass or don't come)
they can be moved, taken down, increased, decreased (sounds like a place bet)
but are always ON on the come out roll, not place bets

Sally
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July 9th, 2018 at 12:49:54 PM permalink
Face bets?
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July 9th, 2018 at 1:07:07 PM permalink
Quote: 90crapsplayer66

Need Clarification Please:
I'm playing the Dark Side strategy. I've started with $25 on the D/P (no lay bet at this time). The Come Out roll is a 9. After several rolls, I now have Face Bets with lay bets on the 5, the 6, the 9, and the 10.

The next roll is 9, and I lose the bet on the D/P . I'm the shooter so I replenish my D/P bet, $25.
At this point, are my 5, 6, and 10, the remaining bets, turned Off for the new Come Out roll? (As they would be if playing the Right way) or are they ON?

The next Come Out roll is 6. Again, is my 6 bet safe? or do I lose the face bet, but keep the lay bet, which would be returned to me.

And, on that same Come Out roll, if a 7 rolls, I of course would lose the D/P $25, but would I win on the 5, 6, and 10, or are they turned Off?

Thanks for your rsponse,
Dick


What do you mean by a "Face" bet? That's a term I haven't heard before. Do you meant Don't Come bets that have traveled, and the lay bets are the odds? I think that's what you meant.

They are on. And like Romes said, you can voluntarily remove a traveled Don't Come bet. Since you have the advantage once it's traveled (7 is the most likely number and you win on it), the casino is HAPPY to let you take that bet down. Which means, obviously, you shouldn't do it.
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90crapsplayer66
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July 9th, 2018 at 2:45:18 PM permalink
Sally,
Everything you said was very clear to me with exception of comment "....the don't side is just that (don't)" Are you suggesting we "don't play the Dark Side? I really don't think that's what you mean, but I'm not clear what you are saying here.
Thanks for getting back to me.
Dick
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July 9th, 2018 at 3:09:47 PM permalink
AcesAndEights,
Thanks for getting back to me. "Face Bets" ----I don't know if that's the correct term, or if there's another more universal word. Yes, you are correct, I refer to the initial bet (whether Pass Line bets, Place Bets, Come, or Don't Come bets) as Face Bets, and pay out at even money. A winning $20 Face Bet pays $20. The Odds bets or the Lay bets are in addition to our initial "Face Bet."

I was not aware that I could take down a traveled D/C bet. I understand also that I'm better off to not take it down, foolish if I do!

Thanks
Dick.
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July 9th, 2018 at 3:23:46 PM permalink
FleaStiff,
Maybe there's a more universally accepted term for the initial bet whether it be a Pass Line, Don't Pass, Come, or D/C bet (does not refer to Odds or Lay). Payout is even money---$20 wins $20. Is there a correct term I should use?
Thanks for your help learning this game.
Dick
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July 9th, 2018 at 4:49:47 PM permalink
Quote: 90crapsplayer66

FleaStiff,
Maybe there's a more universally accepted term for the initial bet whether it be a Pass Line, Don't Pass, Come, or D/C bet (does not refer to Odds or Lay). Payout is even money---$20 wins $20. Is there a correct term I should use?
Thanks for your help learning this game.
Dick



Dick,

Welcome to the forum.

All the even money bets are known by the line printed on the felt where you put your chips.

Pass
Don't Pass
Come
Don't Come
Field (2 and 12 usually pay 2x, sometimes 3x).

I don't think there's any slang for any of those, or any group word for them.

Maybe you've invented one. :)
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July 9th, 2018 at 7:33:31 PM permalink
all dp and dc bets and the odds layed behind them are always working...period
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