mamat
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December 19th, 2016 at 10:44:56 PM permalink
Quote: Joeman

Heck, the best bet on the table (odds) isn't printed anywhere!

Good point. Never thought of that before...
FleaStiff
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December 20th, 2016 at 2:10:48 AM permalink
I think that perpetuates the myth that casinos don't really want you making odds bets. As if the casino cared how fast you burned through your bank roll. Odds bets just let them shear the sheep faster.
vanwely
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December 23rd, 2016 at 2:15:46 PM permalink
When the dice go off the table they say something like:

Dice in the lobby, Bobby.
FleaStiff
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December 23rd, 2016 at 2:35:35 PM permalink
Quote: vanwely

When the dice go off the table they say something like:
Dice in the lobby, Bobby.

I've never heard that one. Often its Too Tall To Call ... Alerts the floor ... the dealers keep staring at their end of the table they don't "hawk" the dice or try to follow an errant die.
RS
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December 23rd, 2016 at 3:17:05 PM permalink
Hawking the dice was my favorite. Impossible to understand some dealers who spoke in garbled English.
FleaStiff
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December 23rd, 2016 at 6:54:10 PM permalink
EVERY crew member has an assigned sight task as far as visual focus goes. "Hawking" the dice means to follow its path and is often a temptation.

Watching the shooter's hands before and after the release of the dice is not random.
Watching the dice and making the call is the stick's job, he seeks assistance of the base dealer IF the stick can not make out the spots on the dice clearly due to distance or obstructions. The base dealer at the shooter's end of the table does not track the travel path of the dice.

A box or Floor may tell a base dealer to refrain from hawking the dice, he LISTENS for the stick to tell him the results and for the BOX to rule on "no roll" or not. He does not follow the dice or form an opinion as to the quality of the roll. The stick and the box may admonish the shooter, but its the Box who makes the ruling as to bounce/wall/lobbing/etc. Dealer keeps his eyes where they belong.
ontariodealer
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December 23rd, 2016 at 11:31:46 PM permalink
its in the sequoia...I can't call it for ya.
get second you pig
aguacroupier
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February 6th, 2017 at 10:09:37 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

I think that perpetuates the myth that casinos don't really want you making odds bets. As if the casino cared how fast you burned through your bank roll. Odds bets just let them shear the sheep faster.



Correct. It is not the casino's responsibility that the player doesn't know what the hell they are doing. It is not a mistake that the Field is large and easy to understand, or the Big 6/8, or all the shiny center action that pays out so well. These are the bets the casino wants action on, not unlike all the side bets on blackjack or baccarat or carnival games.

With that said, if there is a novice to the game who is nice and asking questions, I never have a problem telling them "16 ways to win, 20 ways to lose," or "if you want to bet the 6 and 8 you should make it a place bet," because I think that's the moral thing to do.
ontariodealer
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February 6th, 2017 at 11:26:51 PM permalink
Quote: vanwely

When the dice go off the table they say something like:

Dice in the lobby, Bobby.



when they both go off the table "two die outside, the O.J. roll"
get second you pig

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