Questions from my cruise

So, I love the game but I do not get to play much. My experience is left to apps (for what they are worth, ugh) and every now and then spending $300 to play during a Vegas trip or a cruise.

My recent cruise brought me a couple of questions.

First, they only allowed single odds. WTH? So I have been trying to work on strategies that will do well the next time I am faced with only single odds. Any suggestions from people would be welcome.

Second, I was told by the dealers on the cruise that I can pull down DC and odds at any time. That makes sense since pulling them is giving away my advantage. But I have only encountered one app so far that allows that. Are they correct or misinformed?

Thanks.

You can pull your dc bet at anytime in Vegas or any real casino I have ever played in.


Cruise ships typically offer the worse games you could ever play. They have a captive audience so they don't have to offer anything decent.

Quote: Mikey75

You can pull your dc bet at anytime in Vegas or any real casino I have ever played in.


Cruise ships typically offer the worse games you could ever play. They have a captive audience so they don't have to offer anything decent.

I think you mean that you can take a DC line bet down anytime after the point is established. You have to leave it up when the dice are in motion.

Quote: mnyakko

WTH? So I have been trying to work on strategies that will do well the next time I am faced with only single odds. Any suggestions from people would be welcome.

I apparently will be facing this soon, and expect to be sort of bored with the way I usually play. The variance will be very low and a long session more likely to be a loser. I plan to instead bet more than usual on each bet and make myself do short sessions in order to keep the amount I put into action the same. Make sure you understand that last part if you want to do it.

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Second, I was told by the dealers on the cruise that I can pull down DC and odds at any time. That makes sense since pulling them is giving away my advantage. But I have only encountered one app so far that allows that. Are they correct or misinformed?

You are allowed to do this anywhere because it favors the house. Instead of being a lemming and doing what some idiot has suggested, try to find someone playing the don't who 'wants no action' on his 6s and 8s and buy them from him. IIRC that has a 9% player edge. You'll have to make it worth his while someway, and 9% of $5 is only 45 cents, so he also needs to be betting big.

Quote: odiousgambit

I apparently will be facing this soon, and expect to be sort of bored with the way I usually play. The variance will be very low and a long session more likely to be a loser. I plan to instead bet more than usual on each bet and make myself do short sessions in order to keep the amount I put into action the same. Make sure you understand that last part if you want to do it.

Point taken. Thank you.

Quote: odiousgambit

You are allowed to do this anywhere because it favors the house. Instead of being a lemming and doing what some idiot has suggested, try to find someone playing the don't who 'wants no action' on his 6s and 8s and buy them from him. IIRC that has a 9% player edge. You'll have to make it worth his while someway, and 9% of $5 is only 45 cents, so he also needs to be betting big.

Something new...mind blown. How does that work? I tell the dealer I want to buy that? Gotta act quickly. Or do you notice someone not playing his DC6/8 and work it out before the next one?

I love this game even more, now!

Quote: mnyakko

How does that work? I tell the dealer I want to buy that? Gotta act quickly. Or do you notice someone not playing his DC6/8 and work it out before the next one?

I love this game even more, now!

It has to be the right situation. Mostly I run into minimum bettors, so can't think of a way to do it with them.

Expect the person to be suspicious and unmotivated to cooperate.

If a $25 bettor, clearly you can offer him $26, directly, for his bet, shove it over to him. You may have to pay more to get him to do it. You are counting on the dealers to 'not care', but possibly they will consider it still his money on a win, the guy has to give it to you.

double checking now that player's edge, stay tuned if a 6 or 8, 6 ways to win and 5 ways to lose even money. So [6/11]-[5/11] = 0.0909090909090909

$2.27 is your profit, on average [you can be unlucky], on a $25 bet
PS: note you have given away $1 already , if not more somehow

Interesting. I will keep that in mind. Probably will not see that on a cruise so I will keep a look out the next time I am in Vegas.

Thank you.

Back in the day,( mid 80's ) I worked the casino on a cruise ship for about 18 months in the Caribbean with a home port in Miami. In most of our destination ports (Nassau, for instance) there was generally an English style pub...and as the majority of the front line help on most cruise line casinos at that time were ex-pat Brits , these pubs became a gathering place for the various casino crews that were plying those waters then. The ship I was on not only offered the absolutely worst gambles that I'd ever witnessed in my career, but I'm sure they were gaffing about 40% of the BJ tables to the point Jesus couldn't win. But it was win/win for the casino bosses...once we reached the three mile limit, they didn't have to contend with surveillance (before the age of video), security, ( there wasn't any ) and zero regulatory oversight offshore of US borders. At these pubs I talked about earlier, from overheard shop talk of casino crews , virtually every ship in that region had a partial fix in, in their casino. I'm not sure if this is still the case or not, but I tell friends headed for some ocean goin' casino action to keep their money in their shoe, don't trust any of the help and don't drink the water...lol!

Tis no accident that the ships are registered in the Bahamas, Panama, North Korea, etc.

I haven't seen a ship registered in North Korea but if you have id stay away from it again

A simple strategy, one which I've never tried:

Find a guy at the table who makes a pass line bet but never takes odds.

Ask him if YOU can use your money to put an odds bet behind his PL bet.

The only thing that drives me nuts is blackjack max bet is $300 on the ship.

Lucky it's 300 with those rules you would go broke

Quote: JoelDeze

The only thing that drives me nuts is blackjack max bet is $300 on the ship.

Which cruise line?
What minimum?