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cjaz1337
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February 18th, 2015 at 3:08:22 PM permalink
I've been playing craps for 2 years now, showing up with a 200$-300$ bank roll. What I do is wait till its my turn to roll, bet 110 inside, let 2-3 numbers hit, and take only my place bets down or cut them in half. My theory here, is that instead of winning on only a hot table, I'm winning on a luke warm table and a hot table. The only thing that kills me is rolling a 7 out 1st or 2nd roll. Just in the past week I've won roughly 1.3k (a good week) but most weeks I'm winning anywhere from 700-1k. When I loose, I'm loosing 200-300$ at a time. I tour throughout my province playing craps at different locations to mix it up, and absolutely every craps dealer has admitted that this strategy is the most optimal to winning much more consistently. I love making money, but I like gambling also.. So the times that I lose, it is pretty much fully blamed on greed and me NOT turning my bets off. I am NOT saying "ya I beat the system, I'm a winning player" but from my 2 years of experience I am positive in craps and it has paid for a great amount of my living expenses.

post your thoughts and please don't trash me for explaining my strat. I am in no way saying I beat the system (I'm not that stupid)
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February 18th, 2015 at 3:28:48 PM permalink
Since you have put a condition in your post stating what you don't want people to say, I can usually make things go faster by asking: what do you want to hear?

Then I can usually just agree or disagree with very few words and not offend anybody.
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February 18th, 2015 at 3:41:21 PM permalink
Interesting strategy, I suppose. Sounds boring.
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February 18th, 2015 at 3:47:55 PM permalink
If you're having Fun and you like doing it there's really no comments to make.

I like your system just fine it's no difference between your strategy and others..since you know they all lose in the end.
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February 18th, 2015 at 4:32:57 PM permalink
Quote: cjaz1337

and absolutely every craps dealer has admitted that this strategy is the most optimal to winning much more consistently.



I am skeptical of this. Every dealer has told you this?
mustangsally
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February 18th, 2015 at 4:52:19 PM permalink
Quote: cjaz1337

I've been playing craps for 2 years now, showing up with a 200$-300$ bank roll.

which one you use the most?
I will guess $300
Quote: cjaz1337

What I do is wait till its my turn to roll,

really?, just wait and no other bets
this makes many craps table supervisors and dealers very unhappy.

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bet 110 inside, let 2-3 numbers hit,

why only 2 numbers...
wait
why only 3 numbers?

how do you choose when to take down/reduce after 2 OR 3 numbers have HIT?

you have a lucky charm you consult?

fyi, I do
my shoes
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and take only my place bets down or cut them in half.

excellent..
sounds like another craps betting system to me
Quote: cjaz1337

My theory here, is that instead of winning on only a hot table,

so you actually bet on other shooters when the table IS hot?
you sound confused, wait
you are confusing me
easy to do
you only bet on your rolls? unless the table is HOT!

is this true?
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I'm winning on a luke warm table and a hot table.

nice
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The only thing that kills me is rolling a 7 out 1st or 2nd roll.

roll 3 and roll 2 are the 1st and 2nd highest probability rolls to 7 out on
so that is really no surprise...

unless you are an expert dice controller and win because of your dice rolling skills only
right!
no luck needed

and lose because of greed as you say...
hahahaha

so why are you REALLY here?

did you lose a bet?

you want a showdown with Ahigh?

spit it out I say
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February 18th, 2015 at 6:05:07 PM permalink
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I am in no way saying I beat the system



then Craps will no longer be paying the bills

Your system seems to be trying to time when to take down or reduce your bets. If it is true that 7-outs are more likely on the rolls that follow hitting your numbers, and less likely before you hit your numbers, then you'll still be profiting.

No one here will buy in to the idea that the dice keep track of how you've been doing. But, continue on, and report back.
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February 18th, 2015 at 7:38:56 PM permalink
This sound sort of like John Patrick's strategy.
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February 19th, 2015 at 10:13:33 AM permalink
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I've been playing craps for 2 years now, showing up with a 200$-300$ bank roll. What I do is wait till its my turn to roll, bet 110 inside, let 2-3 numbers hit, and take only my place bets down or cut them in half.



1)As Sally asks, do you mean you do not bet unless you are shooting?
2) You did not mention a passline bet. Don't you have to bet the line in order to shoot? $110 inside = 25 30 30 25. How much do you bet on the pass? What if the point is an inside number? Do you make the place bets before the comeout roll, and have them working?
3) You do not press your bets, just leave them at $110 and take them down?



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post your thoughts and please don't trash me for explaining my strat. I am in no way saying I beat the system (I'm not that stupid)



Your explanation was incomplete, that's all.
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February 19th, 2015 at 7:09:42 PM permalink
Maybe you are positve so far because its not out of the realm of possiblility for a player to be up after only 2 years. You did admit that when you lose you lose only around 2 hundred or 300 which i assume means that you leave if you exhaust your bankroll. That would indicate you have the ability to leave after a loss. good thing to possess in craps. archie karass won millions in vegas over a period but eventually lost it all back. since you say you know you cant beat the system then i suggest that you save as much of your winning as you can because the house edge will eventually catch up. who knows maybe you wont lose big but at any rate enjoy the game and enjoy this winning streak if it really exists. If i were on the same winning streak as you i would be playing much better bets like pass and come with full odds because its not the way you are betting that makes you win but the variance and volatily of the game is in your favor at this time. just because the dice are supposed to roll a certain number of sevens per every 36 doesnt mean you will get lots of sevens. but the law of averages says that the seven will always even out in the long run and they will cause the edge that the house always has to eat up your bankroll if you keep playing.
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February 19th, 2015 at 9:09:51 PM permalink
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I am skeptical of this. Every dealer has told you this?



I agree with this 100%.....which province are you in????
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February 22nd, 2015 at 11:52:47 AM permalink
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Maybe you are positve so far because its not out of the realm of possiblility for a player to be up after only 2 years.

maybe
I think the number of bets that win or lose has more to do with it then just time around the table

I could be right
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You <snip> <snip> <snip>

of course, well

How about, as we wait,

a player buys in for 4 units
could be $20 or $40 at a $5 or $10 table.

and wants to play for exactly 20 bets max
and then go eat dinner, go dancing and have some great sex before midnight,
sounds fun to me

what do you think are her chances of success?
lasting the 20 bets?
0%
5% (1 in 20)
10% (1 in 10)
60% (6 out of 10)
90% (9 out of 10)
something else?

and the chance of being even or ahead, in other words winning!
>
>















here is for pass line - no odds, just flat bet


here is for dpass


and here is for a fair coin flip (offered at Sally's Casino and Sex Shoppe)


I think so
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February 22nd, 2015 at 6:04:04 PM permalink
Can you show me how to highlite peoples quotes on here and respond to them in the same box. I suck at this forum thing but i dont mind responding to people from time to time. Maybe more if i learn how to do this copy paste thingy in the box.
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February 22nd, 2015 at 6:10:52 PM permalink
Quote: cjaz1337

most weeks I'm winning anywhere from 700-1k. When I loose, I'm loosing 200-300$ at a time.



Your "system" is no better, no worse than others.

You've had a bit of luck, which happens.

The worm will turn.
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mustangsally
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February 22nd, 2015 at 7:24:55 PM permalink
Quote: spadeknight

Can you show me how to highlite peoples quotes on here and respond to them in the same box.

my blog now has 4 updated
photos showing how to quote
I think it can helps

the copy/paste is the quote tag part (the part with the member name) and the closing tag /q inside []
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February 23rd, 2015 at 2:07:09 PM permalink
Quote: spadeknight

Can you show me how to highlite peoples quotes on here and respond to them in the same box. I suck at this forum thing but i dont mind responding to people from time to time. Maybe more if i learn how to do this copy paste thingy in the box.



Hi spade! All you have to do is click "quote", the first button in the lower right of every post. A box opens up just like "reply" (which you must have used to type the above), and you type below what the program puts in. Look closely at how the "quote" is formatted, because that's what puts the blue box around the quote and separates it; it's a macro programmed in and called up with the "q" and "/q" inside the brackets.

If you want to only talk about a small part of what someone said, after you've used the "quote" button, put your cursor at the beginning or end of what you want erased out of their quote, left-click and drag over that text to highlight it. Then just hit Backspace or Delete and that text will go away.

If you want to break up someone's post and respond to it line-by-line, type /q ("close quote") inside brackets ([ ]) after the first part of it. Type q ("quote") inside brackets [] again, then another close quote where you want to comment again. Once you've broken it up (or as you go if you like), put in your comments between the "close quote" and the next "quote".

If you look to the lower right of any reply or quote box, you'll see a hyperlink in blue that says "Click here for formatting codes". It will open in a new page so you can refer to it, and tell you how to do these things and many others.
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spadeknight
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February 24th, 2015 at 6:40:48 PM permalink
Quote: BBB

If you want to only talk about a small part of what someone said, after you've used the "quote" button, put your cursor at the beginning or end of what you want erased out of their quote, left-click and drag over that text to highlight it. Then just hit Backspace or Delete and that text will go away.




Just checking to see if im doing this right.
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spadeknight
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February 24th, 2015 at 6:42:07 PM permalink
yea i still suck at this
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February 24th, 2015 at 11:05:01 PM permalink
grab some popcorn and/or candy

75 seconds test

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February 26th, 2015 at 4:10:03 AM permalink
This strategy sounds look a good idea but In execution I rarely see it work. There's a guy at my casino that bets $1,500 across sometimes and then after they roll one number he goes down to $270 across and then since he's broken even on the roll he will press like crazy,

It's amazing how many times they will roll a 6 and he gets paid $350 and then they go out and he risked $1,500 to make $80. Even worse I've seen him go through $10,000 and leave very quickly on a table where 4 consecutive shooters went out without rolling a number. I did see him one time get on a 5 point fire which he had $25 on and after a 1 hour plus roll he colored up for $40,000, but I see him loose far more then I see him win, and a week ago he bought in for $20,000 and left with about $8,000.

I've also been on tables where I bet the 6 and 8 and they go around the table with a dozen shooters and nobody can hit the 6 & 8 it's juet point seven.
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February 26th, 2015 at 11:05:12 AM permalink
Quote: spadeknight

yea i still suck at this



Ok, I went in and edited your test quote. Go back to that, hit "edit" and look at where the brackets are.

When you use the brackets with anything, you start with a "[" , put in the command (in this case a "q" which is short for "quote"), then a " ]" to enclose it.

When you are done with a command, you have to turn it off. the "/" followed by the SAME command, surrounded by brackets turns that command off.

So, I'm bolding this then turning that off.

I'm italicizing this then turning italics off.

I'm
Quote:

quoting this

then closing the quote box.

Hit "quote" and you'll see the brackets and the commands I used. On your own posts, you can use "edit" and see (and fix if needed) the code in the blue box. On other people's posts, you have to use "quote" to bring up the code in the blue box.
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February 26th, 2015 at 11:57:21 AM permalink
Also, if you want to put the characters [ and ] themselves into your posts, you use [[] (that's "left, left, right") for the [ character, and []] (that's "left, right, right") for the ] character.
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February 26th, 2015 at 12:08:22 PM permalink
Hi. Feel free to just click the "Click here for formatting codes (opens in new window)" at the bottom right of every quote or reply box... It explains a lot of the formatting codes, with examples. I don't know why more people don't see this when posting "how do I ..." and the link is right there?
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February 26th, 2015 at 1:54:37 PM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

Also, if you want to put the characters [ and ] themselves into your posts, you use [[] (that's "left, left, right") for the [ character, and []] (that's "left, right, right") for the ] character.

Would you do a demo so we can click quote and try to understand what you just said? TIA
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