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August 24th, 2014 at 9:56:54 PM permalink
Quote: NowTheSerpent

Where did this term start? I've heard it used at H**ters.



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November 7th, 2014 at 3:29:05 PM permalink
Quote: Sluistro

It just blew my mind when he said this to me. Anybody else have that? Im sitting on the rail and not betting because dude is on a small hot streak. He asks why im not betting I told him, all nice and quiet "I play the dont pass." (and when I do play, Im all quiet in my area and quietly take my winnings etc when the 7's come out) and after that he got all super mean and tells me to leave. "Pick up your money and please leave"

Holy crap. He's lucky I actually DID have to leave. I jumped into a poker tournament with my buddy. but if I didnt. oh man I would've went off on his ass. Can they actually do that? Can't he get fired for saying shit like that? lol. I was speechless he had the balls to say that to me. lol



I work at the Borgata and this is unexcusable. I can almost guarantee that if management knew about this, that dealer would be fired. And working at the best casino in AC and risking your job like that is just stupidity.

I understand the shooter was on a hot streak and you wanted to wait, there's no crime on that. But if it was a busy night and people are waiting for a spot on the table and you were sitting there not betting player after player then I can see the supervisor ( not dealer ), asking if your not going to play could you please let this so or so player get in.
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November 7th, 2014 at 3:36:04 PM permalink
Quote: djatc

I feel like buying in and playing $5 on the DP just to spite this guy.



It'll have to be $10 at the Borgata :-)
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November 7th, 2014 at 3:41:02 PM permalink
Quote: RS

Good luck with that one.....he'll likely trade your whites for reds. When you ask him for more whites, he'll just say "no you have plenty of whites". People have tried doing that shit to me before. And figuring out what $11-14 pays isn't that difficult. If you wanna fuck with him, ask for a $168 eight, $222 six, etc. and a $135 horn hi 12 or $72 3-way-craps.



A good dealer will actually enjoy bets like that. It's the weak dealer that those bets would irritate. I guess we know what kind of dealer you fall into :-)
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November 7th, 2014 at 3:50:31 PM permalink
I'm a dark sider and have actually had my bet taken off the table when the shooter, instead of hitting the point, rolls a 7.
Some dealers assume everybody loses.
I spoke up and got my chip back plus the profit.
Binions, party pit dealers.
"Everybody's bragging and drinking that wine, I can tell the Queen of Diamonds by the way she shines, Come to Daddy on an inside straight, I got no chance of losing this time" -Grateful Dead- "Loser"
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November 7th, 2014 at 3:52:41 PM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

Here's a story. Last night at the Palms, everyone finished at the table and nobody was left. So I said, "sure I'll shoot." I bet $11 on the pass and $10 on the don't pass and rolled a winner, then I tipped the $1 to the dealers.

I continued to do this (I won every time) and continued tipping all of my winnings.

I had $10 and $10 and set a point at nine, then I put $12 odds and laid $15 (a net of $2 in odds).

The box then comes up and begins to tell me, "we don't allow you to bet.." I actually cut him off and said "I can bet any way I want to."

He then said, "no we won't let you bet that way when there's a full table especially." He had sort of changed his tune (a little bit) when I cut him off. I rolled the winner on the next roll and told him, "I'll leave if you want me to leave just tell me you want me to leave."

He then changed gears and said, "there's nobody else at the table and you can stay."

I then said, "here's the thing. I play for fun and I was having fun until you started telling me how I am not allowed to bet the way that I want to bet. I'm not having fun at all any more and I don't want to be here."

He stopped talking and sort of started pacing behind the table.

I then asked the dealers as I placed $10 on the pass and $10 on the don't pass. I said, "pop quiz, what's the difference in the expected hold percentage on this money if I bet this way versus all $20 on the pass line."

The stick man said, "it's the same."

I then said, "it's only SLIGHTLY different. But most casinos will rate you for a zero average bet because they think that if you have no volatility that they aren't making any money on you."

I went on to say, "I think those people who run things that way are retarded. If I want to give up my chance to win, and I'm using my money, that's something that I should be allowed to do. The casino is still making money off me, and anyone who doesn't realize that doesn't understand how the game works."

I then went on to say, "I know you guys give out free coupons and don't allow hedging on the coupons and I can even understand that. There's no names on the coupons and it's an easy way for someone to just turn the coupons into cash."

At this point, I had bought in for $100 and I had about $115.

I then took out $1,500 in cash and put it on the felt.

The box man then asks, "your name was Glenn wasn't it." I said, "I don't know!" He said, "can I get your card so you can get rated?"

I replied, "I don't even know if I'm going to bet yet." The stick man pushed the dice out to me and I told him, "I'm not going to do anything until I get my drink."

They counted out $1,500 as the cocktail waitress brought me a Red Bull. The stick man was pushing the dice out to me, and I threw in another $3 (the win from the $2 odds on the nine) and said "dealer hand in no bet." I took $100+ in red, $500 in green and $1,000 in black to the cashier.

Here's the thing: nobody can tell you how to bet YOUR MONEY. They simply CANNOT. They can tell you to leave for any reason without even giving you a reason. They can ADVISE you how to bet. But they CANNOT disallow a betting strategy, particularly one that is already in action before they notice it.

Many people in these pits just don't know what they are doing.

TRUTH!

They also have four tables there. Three of them pay double on the 12 in the field, and one of them pays triple.

<sarcasm>They really got their stuff together over there</sarcasm>



Sorry but you are totally wrong. Not every house has the same rules and the box person sounded yvery polite when he explained the situation, you couldn't leave it at that and like most players like yourself you had to throw fuel on the fire. It's fine the way you bet pre point ( you are risking table min ). But after the point you hedged your bet and are not risking the table min.

So all in all, you should be thankful that they continued to let you play.

And I for one is all for making a dollar. But even if you were tipping $100 a roll, house rules are house rules. If you want to try and change the house rules, get yourself a $100,000 credit line set up your own set of rules with your host prior to coming to the casino. But be prepared, even with $100,000 credit line some rules are still going to appy.
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November 7th, 2014 at 4:02:44 PM permalink
Quote: TheBigB

A good dealer will actually enjoy bets like that. It's the weak dealer that those bets would irritate. I guess we know what kind of dealer you fall into :-)



Those bets don't irritate me, but I imagine would irritate most dealers.
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November 7th, 2014 at 4:03:31 PM permalink
Quote: terapined

I'm a dark sider and have actually had my bet taken off the table when the shooter, instead of hitting the point, rolls a 7.
Some dealers assume everybody loses.
I spoke up and got my chip back plus the profit.
Binions, party pit dealers.



To me that's not an assumption, that's a mistake. I've been there done that :-)

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