Caesars Palace changes procedures for new players

A friend of mine is a dark side player. He always asks for different dice.

haha. the table must love that.

Quote: sodawater

haha. the table must love that.

He's had a guy take a swing at him before. Say what you will about casino security, but they get there FAST.

Quote: sodawater

On a related note, I always am very amused when I am shooting, doing well, and a die goes off the table. Players implore me to choose "same dice!" and I never do. The more hardcore fanatics will call their bets "off" for the roll after the stick dumps the bowl.

How do players even develop these illogical superstitions? I would say they are harmless, except obviously craps is a less enjoyable game if you're living in constant fear of dice going off the table, hitting a hand, a new player buying in, or someone saying the word 7. None of those things should remotely bother you, and if they do it is detracting from what should be an entertaining game.

Selective memory.

Edit: And the very next post I read is http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/17324-gambler-sues-casino-because-he-lost-while-drunk/3/#post336557

Quote: AlanMendelson

Superstition or not I wouldn't want the dice to hit my hand and I never buy in until the next shooter gets the dice.

I don't wait for a new shooter, but if the puck says "ON", I do wait for the current shooter to make his point. I don't believe it affects the dice, but it might affect the mood of other players. I have no interest in starting a session by pssng off the other players, no matter whether their thinking is illogical.

When I have the dice, I wait for my target area to clear before shooting. I don't think I have yet thrown the dice at a jerk, but I have considered it, and it's still part of my game plan.

When I was at Meadows last Sunday with the meet up. I actually hit a guy in the hands. I usually look to make sure the other end of the table is clear and I did. But whomever I hit (he wasn't with our group) make a last second bet and the dice were in the air already. He did say sorry afterword, and there was no harm done, but odiousgambit is right the stickman was pushing the dice out fast. My question is why would Caesars do this? It seems that any increase in revenue would be more than offset by pissed off players taking their action elsewhere.

Same, I don't wait for a new shooter, but it's just an asshole move to buy in (slow down the table) when the lammer is on.

It sounds like mimbo and I play this the same way. If I'm passed the dice and there's stuff going on on the other side, I'll just lay the dice back down (If I picked them up at all) and stare at the other side of the table until they finish their BS.

This is also a good, immediate, way to find out what kind of a player you're dealing with. If they wait until the lammer is off to buy in, you know you have a good guy, dark side or not. If they throw down 5 20's and throw $25 on the field mid-roll, I hope for 6's and 8's all day long. Assholes, gotta teach them a lesson.

Quote: vendman1

When I was at Meadows last Sunday with the meet up. I actually hit a guy in the hands. I usually look to make sure the other end of the table is clear and I did. But whomever I hit (he wasn't with our group) make a last second bet and the dice were in the air already. He did say sorry afterword, and there was no harm done, but odiousgambit is right the stickman was pushing the dice out fast. My question is why would Caesars do this? It seems that any increase in revenue would be more than offset by pissed off players taking their action elsewhere.

Because the bean counters don't actually play the game; they just understand that more rolls per hour means more decisions = more money.

Quote: sodawater

there's no reason whatsoever to wait for the next shooter to make your buy in. Just choose a moment where the dealer isn't busy paying out, and buy in. The whole concept of "it's rude" to buy in during a hand is due to the superstition that new buy ins cause 7s -- and that, itself, is due to confirmation bias because players remember when a new buy in was followed by a 7 and they forget the time a new buy in was followed by an easy 6.

It may be a superstitition but do you want to be that guy who bought in when the next roll was a 7-out?
Do you want to be the guy whose hands touched the dice when reaching for chips and there was a 7-out?

Craps is supposed to be an enjoyable game. Gambling is supposed to be recreational and enjoyable. I will do what is necessary to be sure I have a good time, and others will also have a good time. And if that means following superstitions then yes I will follow superstititions.

If the table thinks that after making five points on the fire bet that if I turn counter clockwise three times before the next come out roll, I will turn counter clockwise three times.

Quote: AlanMendelson

It may be a superstitition but do you want to be that guy who bought in when the next roll was a 7-out?
Do you want to be the guy whose hands touched the dice when reaching for chips and there was a 7-out?

Craps is supposed to be an enjoyable game. Gambling is supposed to be recreational and enjoyable. I will do what is necessary to be sure I have a good time, and others will also have a good time. And if that means following superstitions then yes I will follow superstititions.

If the table thinks that after making five points on the fire bet that if I turn counter clockwise three times before the next come out roll, I will turn counter clockwise three times.

well in my opinion that is absurd.