cm5675
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December 2nd, 2013 at 7:18:51 PM permalink
have been testing all craps systems known to man on the free wizardofodds site. economical way to learn the basics. having said that, put my first real money on the table over the thanksgiving holiday in LV. actually, just have a couple questions with regard to proper table manners.....
1) after the point is established, say i place one bet on the 5 and 9, and two bets on the 6 and 8. say a 5 is rolled. i want to get paid for the 5 and pull down my bet on the 5. what do i tell the dealer, or what is the proper table thing to say to collect the bet and pull down the 5.....
2) still rolling......say i hit the 8. again, still want to get paid and pull down the bet. what do i tell the dealer.
4) ok.....say i two of my numbers have been hit. know i want to turn off my remaining bets that have not been hit, the 6 and 9. what do i tell the dealer to do? turn off the 6 and 9?
basic questions.
thanks
speedycrap
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December 2nd, 2013 at 7:27:53 PM permalink
Let me be the teacher of the day.
1-Usually the dealer will ask "same bet" when the dealer pay you. So just say "Down my 5 please."
2- same as 1. "Down my 8 please and I am off" so the remaining 6 and 9 will be off.
cm5675
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December 2nd, 2013 at 7:31:21 PM permalink
got it.
thanks
FleaStiff
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December 2nd, 2013 at 7:47:43 PM permalink
Quote: speedycrap

Let me be the teacher of the day.
1-Usually the dealer will ask "same bet" when the dealer pay you. So just say "Down my 5 please."
2- same as 1. "Down my 8 please and I am off" so the remaining 6 and 9 will be off.


Agreed that this is technically sufficient particularly if the dealer is "sharp", but I would never say "I'm off"...
I would say "I'm off everything else" or "I'm off my X and Y". Spell it out for them, crisp and clear and there will be no later arguments or misunderstandings.

Even if you get longwinded about it, say it. The dealer in acknowledging you will probably shorten it and that is how you learn.
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December 2nd, 2013 at 8:18:05 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Agreed that this is technically sufficient particularly if the dealer is "sharp", but I would never say "I'm off"...
I would say "I'm off everything else" or "I'm off my X and Y". Spell it out for them, crisp and clear and there will be no later arguments or misunderstandings.

Even if you get longwinded about it, say it. The dealer in acknowledging you will probably shorten it and that is how you learn.


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December 2nd, 2013 at 8:18:22 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Even if you get longwinded about it, say it. The dealer in acknowledging you will probably shorten it and that is how you learn.

+1

Totally agree, especially if the dealer doesn't know you.

To the OP: Tell the dealer exactly which bets that you want Off. I've seen so many arguments at the table that could have easily been avoided by doing this.
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December 2nd, 2013 at 8:27:43 PM permalink
Also remember that if you happen to have hard ways (which is not very clever) and you say your bets are "off" your hard ways will continue to work. You have to specifically call them off too, just like on the come out roll your hard ways will always work unless called off (they lose if you roll a 7 on the come out).

Just another bit of useless info I guess :)
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December 3rd, 2013 at 1:14:57 AM permalink
The three smartest words on the craps table: "Take me down"
When a rock is thrown into a pack of dogs, the one that yells the loudest is the one who got hit.
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December 3rd, 2013 at 5:37:17 AM permalink
I prefer "Color me Up" :-)
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December 3rd, 2013 at 5:59:07 AM permalink
Quote: DeMango

The three smartest words on the craps table: "Take me down"

Probably. At least they seem to be the three hardest words for players to learn to utter.
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December 3rd, 2013 at 6:12:37 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Tell the dealer exactly which bets that you want Off. I've seen so many arguments at the table that could have easily been avoided by doing this.

Right. It not necessarily the players or dealers fault. Things do get hectic and there are always new players and new dealers. Heck, half the time the dealer has his head down looking at the layout and is going by hearing "a voice" from a (more or less) certain direction. New dealers, new players, background noise, distractions, other tasks ... give the dealer a break and be specific. Brief but specific. Dealers have learning curves too.

It is annoying and distracting for others to have arguments at the craps table. It can be costly for you to have an argument at the craps table, so the best thing is to save yourself the annoyance and the opportunity costs involved and just say what you mean precisely and there will be no later disputes.

Dealers don't like this constant on and off stuff but part of it is their job and if it gets excessive ... you will get the idea and can decide what to do, but at all times precision is proper.

I think its even best to learn the numbering terminology so that if Dealer announces "Something,,, my number three" you know whether he is referring to you or not.
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December 3rd, 2013 at 6:33:13 AM permalink
Quote: Tomspur

Also remember that if you happen to have hard ways (which is not very clever) and you say your bets are "off" your hard ways will continue to work. You have to specifically call them off too, just like on the come out roll your hard ways will always work unless called off (they lose if you roll a 7 on the come out).

Just another bit of useless info I guess :)


In Canada, your hardways are always OFF at the come out roll. The dealer will ask the player whether he/she wants the hardway working.
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December 3rd, 2013 at 8:19:39 AM permalink
Quote: speedycrap

In Canada, your hardways are always OFF at the come out roll. The dealer will ask the player whether he/she wants the hardway working.

In Michigan it depends on the casino...but the casinos that work the hardways do a good job of announcing that they are working on each comeout roll.
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December 3rd, 2013 at 8:20:08 AM permalink
Quote: DeMango

The three smartest words on the craps table: "Take me down"

Yes....agreed.
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December 3rd, 2013 at 8:40:42 AM permalink
Quote: JB85

In Michigan it depends on the casino...but the casinos that work the hardways do a good job of announcing that they are working on each comeout roll.


I was under the impression that its only Vegas where they're working on a come out.

But I agree, they're good about reminding you about it.
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