MathExtremist
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March 18th, 2013 at 1:10:15 PM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

No I'm 100% sure there are none.

Case closed.


I'm not, but it sounds like you're 100% sure you're not one of them, however many there are. The question for you is whether you want to spend the time to try to become one, especially given that the ROI of your time is much, much higher at the sort of job for which you're qualified.

Moreover, suppose you could achieve a consistent 1% edge over the house when you shoot. What kind of time commitment would it require to replace your current job (and benefits) with playing craps for a living? If you could, would you?
"In my own case, when it seemed to me after a long illness that death was close at hand, I found no little solace in playing constantly at dice." -- Girolamo Cardano, 1563
EvenBob
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March 18th, 2013 at 1:13:44 PM permalink
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What kind of time commitment would it require to replace your current job (and benefits) with playing craps for a living? If you could, would you?



Even if he could do it (he can't) he couldn't make any
money in Vegas. He's too well known and by the time
he got good enough, he would have explained what
he was doing to every pit crew in the city and that as
they say, would be that.
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Ahigh
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March 18th, 2013 at 1:19:31 PM permalink
No, I'm 100% sure now that it's not possible.
Ahigh
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March 18th, 2013 at 1:43:18 PM permalink
Quote: MathExtremist

Moreover, suppose you could achieve a consistent 1% edge over the house when you shoot. What kind of time commitment would it require to replace your current job (and benefits) with playing craps for a living? If you could, would you?



I have stated multiple times that even if I proved it were possible and I could do it, it's boring and uninteresting to me.

I prefer just to gamble for entertainment purposes only.

I do enjoy making large bets, and I enjoy doing that on other players as much as on myself, and always have.

I am 100% sure that nobody can do it, though. Not just me. It's all just a fantasy. I've learned enough at this point to reach that conclusion, and if it were possible to do, I would know by now. But it's not.
EvenBob
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March 18th, 2013 at 1:55:50 PM permalink
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I am 100% sure that nobody can do it, though. Not just me. It's all just a fantasy. I've learned enough at this point to reach that conclusion, and if it were possible to do, I would know by now. But it's not.



And just 24 hours ago you said:

"More than HALF of my rolls are more than likely 100% random in what I expect from them. When I fail to accomplish my goals in my shot, that is what I consider a random roll. I fail a lot. *I* would be happy to have a two digit percentage of my rolls not be 100% random."

And today you're 100% sure its a fantasy. Why oh why
do I doubt what you're saying today is the way you
really feel..
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thecesspit
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March 18th, 2013 at 2:02:49 PM permalink
He thinks he's Thorping up the whole thing.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
Ahigh
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March 18th, 2013 at 2:13:05 PM permalink
Yeah. That's just how it is.
EvenBob
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March 18th, 2013 at 3:05:56 PM permalink
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He thinks he's Thorping up the whole thing.



He says he's been playing craps for hours almost
every day for 3 years and he decides overnight
its all been just a fantasy, he can't beat it?

Whatever. My dog just decided today he doesn't
like raw steak anymore. I can't figure it out..
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TheWolf713
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March 18th, 2013 at 3:49:09 PM permalink
Glad to see the replies.....

This just another perspective...

I just feel everyone should look behind the curtain every now and then... They walk the floors of their casinos, and they've seen guys have rolls that dump their tables.... So they want to know if it's true too...

He didn't say it doesn't exist....
But he's not worried either...

Everyone who practices the DI phenomenon has adopted a throw or roll that is consistent with about 3-4 of the "best shooters" in the country... They see your "grip" while your shooting from your "strategic" position... And they see your betting scheme..... And they are ready to kick you out... And once you are truly on the radar, there's no coming off..

Does anyone know the real reason why most experts want people to practice from the postions next to the stickman????
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AlanMendelson
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March 18th, 2013 at 7:11:15 PM permalink
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Does anyone know the real reason why most experts want people to practice from the postions next to the stickman????



If this is a serious question the serious answer is the shortest distance affords the shooter the smallest window for error. the longer the distance you must cover the more the errors of your throw will be magnified.

Drop a pair of dice from half an inch and see if the "set" holds?
Drop a pair from six inches and what happens?
Drop from six feet up and see what happens?

Whenever I see a self-proclaimed DI shooting from the far end of a table I immediately accept that he is not serious following the DI strategy. That of course doen't mean he isn't going to have the roll of a lifetime, but it does mean he is just not a true student of DI.

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