odiousgambit
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March 7th, 2013 at 12:21:58 AM permalink
Breaking Vegas episode that I havent seen before

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bhno_F9vZcw
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March 7th, 2013 at 12:44:34 AM permalink
I can't believe I watched twenty minutes of that before finally turning it off. I bet Stanford Wong wishes everyone would forget this video ever existed. Talk about embarrassing.
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March 7th, 2013 at 1:03:15 AM permalink
Quote: sodawater

I bet Stanford Wong wishes everyone would forget this video ever existed.



Very entertaining if you ask me, but I suspect it's pretty close to pure fiction.

It should come with a warning? "Do Not Swallow Whole"

For Wong and dice control, there was the old Wong, Believer, and the new Wong, Waffling a bit.
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March 7th, 2013 at 3:26:50 AM permalink
Now I know he isn't Asian like I guessed. I don't understand how they could get so lucky and be able to travel to so many casinos if they didn't have an edge. Or is that supposed to be the fiction?
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March 7th, 2013 at 6:58:49 AM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

Now I know he isn't Asian like I guessed. I don't understand how they could get so lucky and be able to travel to so many casinos if they didn't have an edge. Or is that supposed to be the fiction?



yup

I think he chose his online name on purpose to disguise himself from the suits in the casino?
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March 7th, 2013 at 7:07:54 AM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

yup

I think he chose his online name on purpose to disguise himself from the suits in the casino?



yup -- we call him the Fake Asian in Vegas ....respect him as a Financial Adviser and BJ man, but I have played on too many craps tables with him and seen him lose too many times to know that his craps advise (betting and tossing) must be taken with a few grains of salt

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March 7th, 2013 at 7:11:27 AM permalink
His real name is easy to find. Many assume he is Asian especially since his publishing house is called Pi Yee Press. According to Wiki, his first choice for a pen name "Nevada Smith" was taken. Too bad, it has a good ring to it.
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March 7th, 2013 at 7:29:09 AM permalink
I don't blame him for using the pen name he did, because it is pretty genius as a marketing tool.
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March 7th, 2013 at 7:29:28 AM permalink
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March 7th, 2013 at 7:33:12 AM permalink
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I don't think you'll find that many asians with the first name of Stanford.


You probably won't find many of any nationality with the first name Stanford. Makes the name more memorable I think with the almost automatic recognition of the strangeness between the first and last name.
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March 7th, 2013 at 9:47:35 AM permalink
If I had a pen name it would be Harlem Jefferson and all my books would be on cassette tape. I think there is a under-served market out there for how to play craps. Nobody is telling you how to bet the hi-lo!
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March 7th, 2013 at 9:49:56 AM permalink
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If I had a pen name it would be Harlem Jefferson and all my books would be on cassette tape. I think there is a under-served market out there for how to play craps. Nobody is telling you how to bet the hi-lo!


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March 7th, 2013 at 10:18:23 AM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

Breaking Vegas episode that I havent seen before

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bhno_F9vZcw


Wow, the actors they got to play Dominator and Pawlicki are really bad, not just in their acting ability but also in any kind of vague resemblance. They couldn't have gotten that guy to wear some glasses and grow the same facial hair at least?

The acting and production is pretty terrible all around. The opening scene with the back-and-forth with the stick man - really? Also when they go to the casino for the first time (about 17:30) and the narrator says that Pawlicki and his partner pass the dice so that Dom can shoot again - never mind the rest of the people at the table, haha.

Oh man, this just gets better and better (and by that I mean worse and worse). Around 22:40.
Dom: "YES!!" *pumps fist*
Jerry Patterson: shakes head with disapproval
Dom: <deadpan> "I mean yes."


I'm barely halfway through but I have to finish this.
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March 7th, 2013 at 10:25:55 AM permalink
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I'm barely halfway through but I have to finish this.



Just generally, the portrayal of the various crews as such meanies [like it was *their* money] is pretty funny; the lousy acting by same said crews adds some laughs too
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March 7th, 2013 at 10:30:27 AM permalink
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March 7th, 2013 at 10:33:58 AM permalink
Don't be too hard on the production, this is done for mainstream TV audiences.

I was disappointed that Chris Pawlicki's name was misspelled. Check the "super" when he is interviewed.

That point alone proves it was a low budget production.
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March 7th, 2013 at 10:37:46 AM permalink
These "Breaking Vegas" shows aired I want to say in 2005 and there were 5-6 of them. Most of them were pretty bad.
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March 7th, 2013 at 10:52:16 AM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

Don't be too hard on the production, this is done for mainstream TV audiences.

I was disappointed that Chris Pawlicki's name was misspelled. Check the "super" when he is interviewed.

That point alone proves it was a low budget production.


Also, watch the credits where the show the actors who played the 3 main characters - they reverse the names of actor/character for Scoblete; it reads that Scoblete was playing someone in the show. Real low-budget indeed.


Quote: Gabes22

These "Breaking Vegas" shows aired I want to say in 2005 and there were 5-6 of them. Most of them were pretty bad.


I was wondering if they were all this bad...
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March 7th, 2013 at 10:58:37 AM permalink
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I was wondering if they were all this bad...



I'd say some were really pretty good, if only because they were relating a good story in the episode. And I would say some productions were better than this one. And it must be admitted all episodes had an knack for dramatization. I hadn't seen this episode, I wonder if there were others I missed.
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March 7th, 2013 at 11:09:27 AM permalink
Quote: I was wondering if they were all this bad...[/q



Some were just awful, like the one where people were past posting bets and stuff. My favorite one was about the guy who was able to gaffe slot machines by betting in a particular sequence.

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March 8th, 2013 at 7:34:56 PM permalink
Hey a video is a video......who cares if there is one or there is not one.


But i have a question..... any of you hot shots on here ever played with Frank or Dom.... or even spoken with them to see what there
approach really is. ??????????????????

I didn't think so


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March 8th, 2013 at 7:43:45 PM permalink
Quote: dicesitter

... But i have a question..... any of you hot shots on here ever played with Frank or Dom.... or even spoken with them to see what there approach really is. ??????????????????

I didn't think so

Dicesitter



Frank twice, Dom 4 times and the guy they kicked out of GTC who is better than both of them - Howard Rock 'n Roller at least a couple of dozen times and broken bread with him and his wife several times .... see here for one accounting with Frank and Dom https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/craps/13188-2-tales-of-the-same-event-ruined-by-biased-dice/#post224443
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March 8th, 2013 at 8:12:19 PM permalink
Sorry Harley i dont see your point.

I would imagine they have had lots of losing sessions, and lots of winning sessions.... If you know as much about dice control as you seem to attest to than you should know that even the best stink from time to time and even the best look awful if they dont practice.

Now i dont know the habits of Frank or Dom or this Howard.... but i would be willing to wager you give any of them
a week or more where they are working or doing others things and place them on a table, there is a very good chance
they will look awful and their throw will look awful...

You and i both have seen every professional in every sport suck from time to time.... that means a good craps
player does not have that potential. ????

I am not making any excuses for them... i have no dog in this fight, i am just wondering if you are suggesting that
Dom, Frank or Stickman are not any good at this, and never were any good, and all the talk about what they
have accomplised at the table over time is false.


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March 8th, 2013 at 9:10:40 PM permalink
Dicesitter - no point at all, just trying to answer your question .... and I agree, just like most professional sports, I have seen all craps players go thru hot and cold streaks
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March 8th, 2013 at 9:55:51 PM permalink
No joke, one time at the Taj I played a craps game where the only four people at the table were:

Me
Scoblete
Scoblete's wife
Noted character actor Steve Buscemi.
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March 8th, 2013 at 10:39:12 PM permalink
Quote: sodawater

No joke, one time at the Taj I played a craps game where the only four people at the table were:

Me
Scoblete
Scoblete's wife
Noted character actor Steve Buscemi.


Shut the fuck up Donny!
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March 9th, 2013 at 7:08:14 AM permalink
Harley

Thnak you for that answer, it was reasonable and rare for this board. That is the point that i
have been trying to get across since i have been on this board, perfection is not possible, and you
can have enough influence on the dice to make money even though you cant pick up the dice
and throw any number you want.

As far as Dom on that video calling his number...... hell we have all done that, ramdom throwers
and dicesitters alike....... its fun...its also alot of luck. Showing off i think is part of life, now for me
i am a quiet guy, i have had very longs rolls many times and you hardly know i am at the table. But
still you feel a little special when everyone is cheering... until your next 4 7outs in a row.


heading for the table tonight, got a chance to practice last night. hope that helpes

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March 14th, 2013 at 3:52:57 PM permalink
Quote: AcesAndEights

Shut the fuck up Donny!



Dammit. You made me spit out my food. I'm trying to eat here!
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