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tupp
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January 30th, 2013 at 9:02:41 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Dice setting has been shown over and over not to work long term. As I'm sure you know.

I don't know that.

Please provide links/evidence to support your assertion.
Mission146
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January 30th, 2013 at 9:10:23 PM permalink
Quote: iluvdisco33

Is this Ahigh guy a joke? First he he believes in dice setting fantasy, then he publicly makes himself look foolish in front of people having ten times his gambling IQ! And now to top it off, he explains about his pathetic income & gambling habit lifestyle while trying to elicit tears of sorrow. So sad.



I see that you decided not to puruse the Forum Rules on personal insults and the Statler and Waldorf standard in light of your suspension just a week-and-a-half ago.

The standard is such that a jab be, "Humorous and gentle," while some people (not me) may or may not find this humorous, using words such as, 'pathetic,' is not something that I would believe qualifies as gentle.

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tupp
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January 30th, 2013 at 9:49:53 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I'm afraid were all just having fun with you.

Yeah. It's really a lot of fun for the rest of us.


Quote: EvenBob

We'll all be extremely surprised if you can do this and make money. Surprised won't even cover it.

I wouldn't be surprised.

Additionally, I don't recall Ahigh ever saying that he would absolutely make money at craps.

What is extraordinarily surprising is that someone who so unabashedly professes that he hasn't held dice since he was a kid playing board games could speak with such authority on a subject which particularly involves methods of holding and (more importantly) throwing dice.

Seems like we have a lot of armchair experts on this forum who are merely "parroting opinions of others."


Quote: EvenBob

You seem like a smart enough guy, but you're putting the proverbial horse in front of the cart, which makes you an open target for those of us who've thru this with others on forums for years.

Really?

You've been on other forums in which one of the posters is employed in gaming development, who also performed and shared extensive dice control research, who wrote advanced logging and plotting software, who has recorded numerous videos of rolls with complex camera setups and slow-motion footage, and who fabricated a dice throwing device from scratch?

Wow! Those of you "who've [been] thru this with others" must have read a lot of incredible posts!

Please link the posts of the "others" who have reported similar work on the forums of which you speak.
Beardgoat
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January 30th, 2013 at 9:56:38 PM permalink
If we could just get bob to guarantee it won't happen... Wait never mind
EvenBob
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January 30th, 2013 at 10:26:29 PM permalink
Quote: tupp

Yeah. It's really a lot of fun for the rest of us.
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See Ahigh? You're surrounded by believers, no
need to be down about anything. The trick is,
only post on lists of fellow travelers, like Christians
only post on Christian lists, and BigFoot believers
only post on their forums. That way you preach
to the choir and feel real good every day.

You think I'm joking and I'm not.
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
MrV
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January 30th, 2013 at 11:33:50 PM permalink
Bob, his belief in dice setting is his crutch.

Or, as he might say, his DESIRE to believe in dice setting is his crutch.

His faith is not affected by empirical evidence and cogent argument; it is hardened and annealed by the flames of gain-sayers.

The man WANTS to believe.

He NEEDS to believe.

Were he to suddenly DISBELIEVE, I suspect that his world view would crumble.

Sure, he tries to pass off his obsession as whimsical fascination, but it appears to go much, much deeper.

Just as a junky needs his shot of heroin to find the strength to carry on ...
"What, me worry?"
Ahigh
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January 31st, 2013 at 3:29:28 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

Bob, his belief in dice setting is his crutch.

Or, as he might say, his DESIRE to believe in dice setting is his crutch.

His faith is not affected by empirical evidence and cogent argument; it is hardened and annealed by the flames of gain-sayers.

The man WANTS to believe.

He NEEDS to believe.

Were he to suddenly DISBELIEVE, I suspect that his world view would crumble.

Sure, he tries to pass off his obsession as whimsical fascination, but it appears to go much, much deeper.

Just as a junky needs his shot of heroin to find the strength to carry on ...



You want to talk about random? How about these random assertions from the spectators?

Here's how I would categorize the comments from MrV: patently derogatory, effectively slanderous, broadly misinformed, disingenuous, uninformed, and emotional.
Ahigh
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January 31st, 2013 at 3:43:10 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

See Ahigh? You're surrounded by believers, no
need to be down about anything. The trick is,
only post on lists of fellow travelers, like Christians
only post on Christian lists, and BigFoot believers
only post on their forums. That way you preach
to the choir and feel real good every day.

You think I'm joking and I'm not.



No, I don't think you're joking. There are absolutely some people, most not on this forum, that go far beyond believers. I'm not making it a goal to be believed or not, and that's something that has absolutely been accomplished by others selling books and classes.

I think if you looked at the contrast of what I'm doing and what previous people have done before me that you would see that I have the resources and intelligence to accomplish the task assuming that it is possible to accomplish and that I am taking on more than anyone that has attempted to take on this task before.

If there was someone who looked at this question more diligently before me, please let me know who that person is or was.

The big gap between an analysis of someone like yourself and what I'm doing is that you want an answer right now, and I realize that this is a very long marathon that likely has no payoff at the end. And I am happy with that. I am doing this for the journey, not just chasing rainbows hoping for the gold at the end.

If there is no gold and it's not possible, I've still enjoyed a journey that has already gone on longer for me than I think most people would be willing to endure. The scenery I am enjoying right now I believe includes things that nobody before me has seen, and that keeps things interesting.

The scenery even includes uninformed comments from people such as yourself, and that's a new part of what I am dealing with. The only reason I think I'm getting the attention of people like you and others who are not into the game of craps is actually a result of my progress and not a lack of results.

I know there are plenty of people who don't even believe in gambling at all who would think far worse things about my findings, especially if it led to an increase in popularity of the game of craps and/or an increase in the gaming revenue overall for the game of craps from OTHER people who hope to profit and fail.

If it's not clear now, let me make it clear: I agree with Wong on many things! One of those things is that if you want to get serious about being an advantage play player at the casinos, craps is probably the worst direction that you could go! If it is possible, and there is currently no proof that it is possible, it is absolutely harder than any other advantage play that is well known and illustrated by math folks. If it is possible, you need to be quite the hybrid of a professional gambler with skills in many areas, and you also need to be comfortable that dumb lucky shooters are routinely going to outperform you!
CrapsForever
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January 31st, 2013 at 5:26:07 AM permalink
Quote: tupp


What is extraordinarily surprising is that someone who so unabashedly professes that he hasn't held dice since he was a kid playing board games could speak with such authority on a subject which particularly involves methods of holding and (more importantly) throwing dice.

Seems like we have a lot of armchair experts on this forum who are merely "parroting opinions of others."



GOLD!!!
Craps is the most "Jekyll and Hyde" casino game ever invented!
Ahigh
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January 31st, 2013 at 6:44:32 AM permalink
I just bought one of these and I should be able to use it by the February 12th broadcast.



http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/atemtelevisionstudio/

For my short term needs, this is just an expensive HDMI switchbox that doesn't have lag when I want to switch.

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