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Mission146
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December 31st, 2012 at 7:37:02 PM permalink
Quote: CrapsForever

Excellent Roll!!!

Can you fully describe the Dice Set you were using? You mentioned the "Hard 6" Dice Set so I'm assuming the Dice Set on top of both Die was (3/3); what was the Dice Set facing you (Left Die/Right Die)?

Thanks!

CF



I apologize for you thanking me in advance because the answer is, "The Hell if I know," all I did was make sure that the Threes were on top, so it probably varied.
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Mission146
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December 31st, 2012 at 7:39:16 PM permalink
Quote: MakingBook

Great story- this is my favorite part.....



Thanks, MakingBook!

With respect to goofing around and superstitions, I always say, "If it doesn't hurt your odds and you have fun doing it, go for it!"

If I'm on a favorable standalone QuickHits Progressive, or Video Keno, for example, I'll occasionally close my eyes and spend a second reflecting on good hits in the past as I try to achieve a state of oneness with the RNG...
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CrapsForever
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December 31st, 2012 at 7:42:08 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

I apologize for you thanking me in advance because the answer is, "The Hell if I know," all I did was make sure that the Threes were on top, so it probably varied.



Thanks for the info. Hope you have a lot more hands/rolls like that in 2013 and beyond...
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Mission146
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December 31st, 2012 at 8:23:03 PM permalink
Quote: CrapsForever

Thanks for the info. Hope you have a lot more hands/rolls like that in 2013 and beyond...



Thanks! I doubt if I will ever see a roll like that again, but it was a blast! I wish that guy would have pulled some of his money off the table, though. People wonder why they lose!!!
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midwestgb
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December 31st, 2012 at 8:33:09 PM permalink
Ahhh... The yin and yang of craps. Pressing bets in a sufficiently aggressive manner to maximize profit during the proverbial hot roll. I too chase the grail....
AxiomOfChoice
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December 31st, 2012 at 8:47:00 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

I guess I probably could make Come Bets, AxiomofChoice, but I don't make those, either. I only make Line Bets and Field Bets, but I didn't even make any Field Bets the other night other than for the boys.



I'd suggest replacing the field bets with come bets :) Probably just as much fun and less house edge. Also you get to make some money when you keep hitting the same number over and over again. More importantly, I don't like to have a lot of rolls where nothing is getting resolved, because that's a little boring.

So, along with my pass line bet + odds, I like to either make come bets + odds, or place 6 and 8 and maybe also buy the 4 and 10. If you are going to be betting enough that you would be willing to back the come bets with odds, the come bets are far superior, of course. Sometimes I will do both... make the place / buy bets along with the come bet, and then when a number hits use the winnings from the place or buy to fund the odds for the come bet.

At a $10 table, once I'm willing to back my $10 pass line bet with full odds, another $24 to place the 6 & 8 isn't THAT much more, and it definitely increases the number of resolutions significantly.
Mission146
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December 31st, 2012 at 9:08:44 PM permalink
Quote: AxiomOfChoice

I'd suggest replacing the field bets with come bets :) Probably just as much fun and less house edge. Also you get to make some money when you keep hitting the same number over and over again. More importantly, I don't like to have a lot of rolls where nothing is getting resolved, because that's a little boring.



I think you might be overestimating how many Field Bets I actually make. I've not kept records on it, but I would say that I probably have averaged one Field Bet for every 100 rolls, lifetime. I usually only do it if I have been throwing the Hell out of the Field, Three in a Row, Four out of Five, something like that...and then usually I'll only continue making them if they win.

I also like having rolls where nothing is resolved. I just like to get to roll the dice, which is why I bet so small and won't put more on DP or PL than the Table Minimum.

I might try some Come Bets one day, though, I don't know.

This is going to sound really strange, but I really don't care if I win money or not when I play Table Games. I mean that I literally don't care at all. I don't believe I've ever Pressed my bets while playing Craps. I just have fun getting to shoot the dice or watching the ball go round and round and BSing with the dealers. I also like to treat the dealers well, especially at Wheeling Island, because they're all incredibly friendly and I never really see the other players tipping them very much there. I just make my minimum bets with 2x odds and then win in multiples of $50. I'll usually lose in multiples of $50, as well, but stopped at $25 on this occasion because I was in the mood to play Roulette instead.
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AxiomOfChoice
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December 31st, 2012 at 11:00:46 PM permalink
Well, then, whatever works for you. I will not lie -- I always want to win money :) Of course I will lose in the long term, but for me, the ability to parlay a relatively small bet into a big payout is what makes craps so much fun.

Roulette is a game that I can't play. Too slow with nothing happening. I find it boring.
FleaStiff
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December 31st, 2012 at 11:05:34 PM permalink
You ain't there to look cool or feel cool, you ain't there to win money for the dealers (although no dealer wants to admit this)... you are there to take the house for everything you and Lady Variance can take it for.

A Come Bet is a virtual Pass Line Bet... exact same rules. The ONLY difference is that a Pass Line bet has a big black Hockey Puck as a reminder and a Come Bet has your stack of chips positioned as a reminder. That is ALL. NO other difference. NONE.

A Place Bet is a Come Bet wherein you have chosen the result and the house nicks you if they have to pay off that bet. That is the cost to you of making a choice yourself rather than letting the dice make the choice.

This story evokes memories of me long long ago and a dealer's statement to the Boxman as I finished a very lengthy roll over my five dollar passline bet: "He could have really hurt us if he had known what he was doing". When I heard that statement, I decided a craps lesson was in order.
odiousgambit
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January 1st, 2013 at 1:29:24 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

I only make Line Bets and Field Bets


Quote: FleaStiff

A Come Bet is a virtual Pass Line Bet... exact same rules.



Yep, everybody is going to clobber you for not making the Come bets. That's when you realize it is possible to roll 'around' more than one number that isn't yours during a monster roll [g].

The funny thing is that there is no mathematical defense for insisting the Come bets would be essential. Then again, the Wizard himself has said that making multiple Come bets is anti-hedging, or something to that effect ... unclear if it was tongue-in-cheek. I could find that post.

In any case, I'll bet Franklins to Frankfurters you will start making Come bets if you stay with Craps. It's not something the mathematically inclined can find fault with, assuming the Line HE is acceptable to start with.
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder

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