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hwccdealer
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December 9th, 2013 at 3:13:26 PM permalink
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You don't have to give advice. Do you call out the players' totals? All you have to do is repeat his total, in this case the player had 20, a couple of times and pause ever so slightly. You could also say dealer is showing a 5. I might even tip the dealer after that. ...Nah.

If he ignores you then he's on his own.



He was fully aware of what his total was. He was also fully aware that it was a risky move. He chose to hit anyway.

If someone does make a highly unusual move (i.e. doubling a hard total or hitting hard 17,) I may confirm with them that they're not just falling asleep at the wheel and then do as they ask if they want to. I may also do that if, say, they've consistently stood on hard 15 and 16 and then suddenly start hitting it. But if the camera shows them tapping the table on a hard 17, it's technically a hit, and if we go to surveillance, they'll side with me and call it a hit.

I do generally call out a player's total, especially if it's goofy-looking or has lots of cards. I don't generally call out the dealer's up-card, though. As far as I'm concerned, I'm their dealer, not their daddy, and if they want to be a ploppy, they can be a damn ploppy. And I usually call out at a higher volume any time a player splits, doubles, or makes a highly unusual move like the aforementioned hard-total double or hitting a hard 17.
hwccdealer
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December 9th, 2013 at 3:17:52 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Why can't people, dealers and players, just let them play their hands any damn way they want to?



I do that. If someone wants to be an idiot and split 10s, that's their prerogative. That said, if it's really bizarre or out of character, I may confirm that's what they're doing. I work the grave shift, so I get a lot of zombies on my shift.

I do see a lot of people who gripe about other players, though, and will blatantly leave a table over another person's play.
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December 9th, 2013 at 3:20:30 PM permalink
Quote: hwccdealer

I do that. If someone wants to be an idiot and split 10s, that's their prerogative. That said, if it's really bizarre or out of character, I may confirm that's what they're doing. I work the grave shift, so I get a lot of zombies on my shift.

I do see a lot of people who gripe about other players, though, and will blatantly leave a table over another person's play.



One of my reasons to split 10s.
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
DJTeddyBear
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December 9th, 2013 at 3:35:42 PM permalink
Quote: 1BB

One of my reasons to split 10s.


It's the only reason I miss the Sahara - and their $1 BJ table. :)
The reaction from the other players is worth every cent of the negative EV.
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Ibeatyouraces
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December 9th, 2013 at 3:45:33 PM permalink
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
hwccdealer
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December 10th, 2013 at 9:20:14 AM permalink
Quote: 1BB

One of my reasons to split 10s.



In my ploppy days, before I learned basic strategy, I would have pulled something like that. But I would have to be certain that it would cheese a player off enough to leave the table to consider it.
Greasyjohn
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December 21st, 2013 at 10:01:05 PM permalink
I was once playing blackjack at The Four Queens years ago on a single-deck game. The guy playing third base stood on a two card 5 ( 3-2). When the dealer busted the guy at third base turned over his hand with a flourish and declared that he saved the table (which he did). I think he played his ridiculous hand so that he could make that pronouncement.
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December 27th, 2013 at 6:14:04 AM permalink
Not really out of the ordinary, but I saw $30 big 6 and big 8 bets at the other end of the craps table.

I thought that was pretty bad until the guy next to me bet a "$30 place-not-buy 4."

When asked (not by me, I've learned to keep my mouth shut) why he didn't buy it, he said "because you have to pay the vig up front and behind." Yea, ooookay. He happily took his $54 payout when it hit and smiled smugly at everybody shaking their heads.
hwccdealer
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January 2nd, 2014 at 9:14:02 AM permalink
Quote: wudged

Not really out of the ordinary, but I saw $30 big 6 and big 8 bets at the other end of the craps table.

I thought that was pretty bad until the guy next to me bet a "$30 place-not-buy 4."

When asked (not by me, I've learned to keep my mouth shut) why he didn't buy it, he said "because you have to pay the vig up front and behind." Yea, ooookay. He happily took his $54 payout when it hit and smiled smugly at everybody shaking their heads.



I get the once-in-a-blue-moon players who place and don't buy the 4. Most of them will buy it when I tell them buying it pays better. In the last one's case, he just placed for $20 and the shooter sevened out pretty quickly, so it didn't matter.

It's not as bad at the pass-line-after-the-point-is-established crowd who INSIST on placing a pass line bet rather than a place bet, even when they require the same amount of money and stand to make less. Usually I call out "point is placed" if someone puts a bet down like that and people are OK with it. But I guess ploppies keep the lights on.
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May 10th, 2014 at 9:05:15 PM permalink
I am bringing this thread back from the dead.

Today I saw someone stand on 2,2 vs a dealer 4.

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