what is the worst possible set of rules for blackjack?
for instance,
8 spanish decks, blackjack pays even money, no surrender, no double down, no split, dealer hits soft 17, no hole card, no insurance, dealer doesnt peek, and pushes lose.
does anyone know the dealers advantage under all these rules?
how could i make it worse??
Quote: ponyboyi am trying to make THE WORST BLACKJACK SET OF RULES POSSIBLE!
for instance,
8 spanish decks, blackjack pays even money, no surrender, no double down, no split, dealer hits soft 17, no hole card, no insurance, dealer doesnt peek, and pushes lose.
does anyone know the dealers advantage under all these rules?
how could i make it worse??
Require a 25 cent ante for every hand. They love it in Atlantic City!
Quote: SwitchThe dealer pushes all wagers with any 'bust' total. Or, worse still, any dealer 'bust' total counts as a dealer 'Blackjack'.
XD
Quote: teddysGood question! A followup would be what are the worst blackjack rules you have seen in real life? I nominate the Pussycat Dolls pit at Caesars Palace Las Vegas. 6:5 payouts, double on 10 and 11 only, hit soft 17, and no double after split. Yeah!
i nominate the muckleshoot casino in auburn washington state (one of two ive been to)
single deck, hit soft 17, 3 to 2 blackjack, no peek, double on any(except after split), surrender any time.
Quote: ponyboyi nominate the muckleshoot casino in auburn washington state (one of two ive been to)
single deck, hit soft 17, 3 to 2 blackjack, no peek, double on any(except after split), surrender any time.
Those are the worst rules you have ever seen? How about the 6:5 and 1:1 games?
Quote: DocThose are the worst rules you have ever seen? How about the 6:5 and 1:1 games?
yup! 6 to 5 and 1 to 1 dont exist in the casinos that i go to. all the tables play the same rules.
also aces split only once and no hit on the aces.
Quote: ponyboyi nominate the muckleshoot casino in auburn washington state (one of two ive been to)
single deck, hit soft 17, 3 to 2 blackjack, no peek, double on any(except after split), surrender any time.
I'm getting a .11% house advanage in that game. If that's the worst game you've seen, what's the best?!?
Quote: Ask the Wizard
I deal blackjack at my church festival and I'd love to run a basic strategy scenario for our rules...
4 decks
Dealer stands on soft 17
Double on 9,10,11
Split any cards
Double after split
PLAYER LOSES PUSHES
The last rule is what I call's "God's House Advantage" and is the one rule that obviously is not in any of the strategy generators I've found online. I'm convinced that the push loses rule might make hitting a 17 a basic strategy play in some cases. Best regards and keep up the great work. - Joe from Floral Park, NY
Go to the Wiz's article to read the answer (both the house edge, and the strategy sheet).
Quote: rdw4potusI'm getting a .11% house advanage in that game. If that's the worst game you've seen, what's the best?!?
8 deck, hit soft 17, 3 to 2, no peek, any double(not after split) no hit aces, split to 3 hands
Quote: ponyboy8 deck, hit soft 17, 3 to 2, no peek, any double(not after split) no hit aces, split to 3 hands
Um...are you sure you don't have those definitions reversed?
Quote: OneAngryDwarfUm...are you sure you don't have those definitions reversed?
yup! XP
That's how they roll in Oklahoma.
Quote: LoteAdd a 50 cent ante every hand for blackjack. Minimum bet? $5
That's how they roll in Oklahoma.
Brinngs new meaning to the term SOONER . As in broke sooner!!!
Quote: Jufo81The Blackjack in Finland has these rules: Six decks, Double hard 9-11 only, No Das, Split once, Dealer wins pushed 17-20. Minimum bet 2, maximum bet 20. I think that's around 10% house edge. Strangely I am actually ahead in this game :p
Does player automatically win once he gets 21? Does BJ pay 2: 1? As a member of this forum you are actually admitting you played this game? While sober? I cannot imagine you are ahead unless you got very lucky over a VERY short period of time.
Quote: Jufo81The Blackjack in Finland has these rules: Six decks, Double hard 9-11 only, No Das, Split once, Dealer wins pushed 17-20. Minimum bet 2, maximum bet 20. I think that's around 10% house edge. Strangely I am actually ahead in this game :p
The first legal hand of blackjack I ever played was in Finland 1986 under such rules, I'm embarrassed to say. As I recall the player lost ALL ties, but it has been a while.
Quote: LoteAdd a 50 cent ante every hand for blackjack. Minimum bet? $5
That's how they roll in Oklahoma.
Yes, the ante does take away any player advantage... HOWEVER, the casinos in Oklahoma have strangely player favorable rules (at least the ones I went to on a day trip out there).
2-decks, Dealer stands on 17, BJ is 3:2, unless in spades, then 2:1 (some places diamonds etc.), 6-card charlies pay 3:2, 7-7-7 pays 3:2, $100 if suited, RSA, no surrender though. These rules alone do not make up for the ante, but occasionally casinos run promotions where THEY pay the ante. Find those times, and play hard!
