Double 4 More Blackjack

Have you heard of Double 4 More Blackjack?

In exchange for a dealer's 22 only paying 1:2, you have the ability to quadruple your bet.

This game was made by a forum member who runs House Way Gaming, and I really like it so tonight I quickly added it to my website where you can play it (or you can play at the FireKeepers Casino in real life).

I was given the basic strategy if anyone is interested in seeing it or hopefully putting it on the Wizard of Odds website. If not I can invest some time to include it in my Table Game Optimal Strategy Database :)

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Have you heard of Double 4 More Blackjack?

In exchange for a dealer's 22 only paying 1:2, you have the ability to quadruple your bet.

This game was made by a forum member who runs House Way Gaming, and I really like it so tonight I quickly added it to my website where you can play it (or you can play at the FireKeepers Casino in real life).

I was given the basic strategy if anyone is interested in seeing it or hopefully putting it on the Wizard of Odds website. If not I can invest some time to include it in my Table Game Optimal Strategy Database :)
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I like it! That's exactly the kind of game that I like to monkey around with. That you can double on any number of cards is a significant detail.

I tried the demo on the House Way site and it has the dealer standing on soft 17. At least it did do when the dealer was dealt A-6. It also let me draw to split aces and I don't know if that is part of the intended game rules.

Considering that it says "dealer must hit soft 17" in the game, I assume it is a glitch. I assume the split aces is a glitch too but I could be wrong.

On the version on my website, you cannot do hit on split aces and the dealer hits soft 17.

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Considering that it says "dealer must hit soft 17" in the game, I assume it is a glitch. I assume the split aces is a glitch too but I could be wrong.

On the version on my website, you cannot do hit on split aces and the dealer hits soft 17.
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I'm playing yours now. Nice and smooth!

Do you realize you have surrender available? Surrender would be a great modification to this game! It will enhance player engagement while increasing hold, especially with unfamiliar rules and strategies. Hopefully surrender will be available when it hits the tables.

Ooohhh, look what I made it do! I hacked your game! Unlimited profit! All your base are belong to us!

The game has hit the tables but I am unsure as to whether surrender is available or optional.
Perhaps it is up to the individual casino owners or pitbosses to decide that, rather than it being a hard-coded game rule.

I will now elaborate on the basic strategy from what I have been given

Section I: Hard
8-: Hit
9: Hit, but Double against 4-6
10: Double, but Hit against 10/A
11: Double
12: Hit, but Stand against 5/6
13: Hit, but Stand against 3-6
14-16: Hit, but Stand against 2-6
17+: Stand

Section II: Soft
12-14: Hit
15-16: Hit, but Double against 6
17: Hit, but Double against 5-6
18: Stand against 2/7/8, Double against 3-6, and Hit against 9/10/Ace
19-21: Stand, but Double against 3-6

Section III: Pairs
2: Split, but Hit against 9/10/Ace
3: Split, but Hit against 2/9/10/Ace
4: Hit, but Split against 3-6
5: Double, but Hit against 10/Ace
6: Split, but Hit against 8/9/10/Ace
7: Split, but Hit against 9/10/Ace
8: Split, but Hit against Ace
9: Split, but Stand against 10/Ace
10: Stand
Ace: Split

Edit: By "Double" I really mean "Quadruple"

There are a lot of ways to "hack" the website. Just go into the inspect element and edit the "newdeck" variable to give yourself a royal flush lol.

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There are a lot of ways to "hack" the website. Just go into the inspect element and edit the "newdeck" variable to give yourself a royal flush lol.
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But that's not what I did. Check your game flow. When you double-quadruple down it doesn't decrement the player's bank. Just magic free money added to the bet.

Bruh moment...
Tripling and quadrupling weren't costing the player money, but I just added two lines of code to fix that ;)

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Bruh moment...
Tripling and quadrupling weren't costing the player money, but I just added two lines of code to fix that ;)
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Aw, I liked it better the other way!

So where is this being dealt now?

Right now this game is only played at the FireKeepers casino, but I think there might be more placements coming soon. I was told that this game replaced Big Bet Blackjack there.

Ya it is currently at FireKeepers, I have several more placements coming soon (which I say loosely in this business) to 3 additional states, but don't like to formally announce them until they go live.

So I go to Firekeepers Casino every once-in-awhile. I have played this game once or twice before. Is a really neat game! There is actually only one table where this game is actually played. Probably most of the people who play the game are totally unaware that there is a different Basic Strategy to this game. But it is definitely worth checking out! Not sure what the house edge is for this game. When I was there yesterday I asked if they had a Basic Strategy card for this game. The pit boss told me that they were out of the cards but referred me to the wizard of odds website. However, I didn't see this game mentioned on that site. But I see that you show what the Basic Strategy is on your post, which is what I was looking for!

Thanks for playing, glad to hear you are enjoying it. The house edge is 0.74%, which is basically the same as a typical dealer hits soft 17 blackjack game. Here is the strategy from the rack card.

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Thanks for playing, glad to hear you are enjoying it. The house edge is 0.74%, which is basically the same as a typical dealer hits soft 17 blackjack game. Here is the strategy from the rack card.


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zbrownson,

Thanks for the B.S. card. Would you also provide the rules card?

Dog Hand

I see that the game is going to be released in California, Minnesota, and Nevada soon, congratulations!

Zbrownson,

Thank you for posting the Basic Strategy card for the game! Is very helpful! That is exactly what I was after when I was at Firekeepers. Also thank you for including the house edge too!

Is the basic strategy of HIT on 13 vs 2 also optimal when your 13 is a 76? or an 85?

So today I travelled out to Firekeepers and played Double 4 More BJ. Made sure that I memorized the Basic Strategy to this game over the last week or two. Game was a lot of fun! Made sure that I quadrupled my $10 bet when it was appropriate, according to Basic Strategy. Definitely, sweated it out whenever I quadrupled! Won a number of my quadrupled hands! Also was neat being able to quadruple on more than 2 cards! I came out ahead overall.

Congratulations!

I tripled up in a handful of hands, but I had to click several dozen times on the $1K button to make my bets big for a $1 million session. Top bet was $180K. I'm not that into quadrupling bets, I'm already nervous on double downs. Getting only half-paid on Dealer 22's is something I expect from Free Bet BJ, not from this game. I'm used to a much easier User Interface on most games other than this website. The buttons here bounce around and I really don't need to refocus my eyesight to see if I'm clicking the right button every few seconds. One thing that's missing is the clear bet button in case I make a mistake, or a remove the last chip bet in case it was the wrong chip I put down. If I want to press my bets on a win, it could remember my last bet and let me add to it; but this is not that. Instead I'm just given an option to rebet, oh, I can add to my rebet, nevermind. I tried to surrender and the page locked up and I lost my bankroll; oh, I had to go fullscreen with the webpage to see the buttons below to continue playing. Most of my playing relies on bet increments every 5 hands, so this quadruple bet really throws a monkey wrench into that. Even if I quadruple a bet, the Dealer 22 knocks the win down to a double down win.

Does anyone else want a 5K chip? I do not think most websites will let you bet $180,000 on a single hand easily. 99% of players don't get to this point, but the website will make fun of you if you lose all million dollars in a session - this is why you start with much more compared to other websites and why I don't have the 5K chip anymore.

I don't think the user interface is that complicated, but consider that I am maintaining almost a hundred games for free for the enjoyment of users of this forum. If you have any suggestions let me know.

Also I think paying 1:2 on 22 in this game is better than Push 22 bets - obviously there has to be some drawback for being allowed to quadruple on any number of cards).

I think a $10,000 starting balance is enough. A million just leads to crazy betting. But I just hit $900,000 on my home game after 70,000+ hands, coming up from $30,000. A website isn't going to allow me to stay playing for more than a few hours.

Oh, I missed that about the difference on Dealer 22's between this game (pays half) and Free Bet BJ (pushes). It still messes up my flow.